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Raikkonen and Renault

September 17, 2010 by Joe Saward

There have been some stories kicking around in recent days, suggesting that Kimi Raikkonen will return to Formula 1 with Renault. These do not make sense to me. Kimi Raikkonen won the World Championship in 2007. This was the culmination of a long career and an achievement that had seemed insurmountable when Raikkonen was starting out as a teenager in Finland. It is fair to say that he never really enjoyed the world of Formula 1, except when he was driving, and he went out of his way to be uninteresting when being interviewed. In that way, so he reckoned, his life would be quieter and he could enjoy himself.

He also hated the restrictions that F1 teams placed on him, with regard to enjoying his life, doing dangerous things, drinking and so on. He now has more money than any sensible person could spend in a lifetime and he has raced for McLaren and Ferrari. In other words, he has been there, seen it, done it and sold the teeshirt about doing it. It has been a great career, has showed off his talent and has proved that, at a moment in time, he was number one. After that it seemed as though his interest in F1 waned. One can say that the car in 2008 and 2009 did not suit his driving style, but this seems to be making excuses. The fire just did not seem to be there any longer. It happens with some World Champions. They are happy with one title and do not need to go on proving themselves by winning a string of championships.

What Kimi liked to do was going rallying and thus a deal was brokered (because Ferrari wanted him out) to leave early and to join the Citroen factory World Rally Championship team. This is stepping in at the absolute deep end. His team-mates this year have been multiple World Champion Sebastien Loeb, Dani Sordo and rising star Sebastien Ogier. Given his relative lack of experience compared to his fellow drivers, he has done all right. Co-driven by Kaj Lindström, who has partnered multiple world champion Tommi Mäkinen in the past, Kimi has finished eighth in Turkey, fifth in New Zealand and seventh in Japan. He is 10th in the World Championship. What is clear is that this is a learning year for him. Next year he will do better as he will have learned more about rallying and then Citroen will decide in 2012 whether he had got what it takes to be a World Champion. If he can achieve that, he will have done something that no-one has ever managed.

At the same time the French company competes at Le Mans, with cars entered by its sister brand Peugeot. Raikkonen has said that he would quite like to win the Le Mans 24 Hours as well, and this is clearly an option. Sebastien Loeb competed at Le Mans in 2005 and 2006 and finished second in the second year, in a Pescarolo-Judd. Thus the rallying route offers Raikkonen opportunities to write his name in record books which F1 cannot allow him. It pays him and it gives him a better lifestyle than previously. In these circumstances one wonders why he would even consider a change.

Renault is looking for a new driver, or at least is going through the motions of doing so. There are two levels to this. Robert Kubica has done well this year, while Vitaly Petrov has done a decent job for a newcomer, although it must be said that Kamui Kobayashi and Nico Hulkenberg seem to have fared better in their respective teams. Having said that, being thrown up against Kubica was one hell of a challenge, as Robert is THE rising star of F1. Renault will almost certainly need to find a replacement for the Pole in 2013. In all probability he has already been signed for 2013 by one of the big teams. The smart money is on Ferrari (because everyone wants to be a Ferrari driver) although McLaren would also have taken a look. Renault, therefore, will probably need to find a new team leader in the long term and must decide whether to invest in a new talent, or buy in an experienced name.

But who is there out there? Taking a driver who has been the top and is on a downward glide path is not really a good option. Renault may not have identified the next Fernando Alonso, as yet, but this is much more likely to be the route that the team will take. The cars are good but not good enough to land a current star. Whether Petrov is the right man remains to be seen. He has done a decent job, brought in much needed money and will get better. He also represents a major market for Renault which may not be important to the team, but it is important to Renault, if the driver is of a sufficient level to make it worthwhile.

Renault might decide to take a look at Mark Webber. He was a Renault test driver and for a long time was contracted to the team. He has done well with Red Bull Racing and is fighting for the World Championship, although things have not always been easy in the Austrian-owned team. He is clearly an option for the long term – but the chances are that he will have had enough of F1 by then.

All things considered, the idea of Raikkonen joining Renault does not seem to be a very realistic idea, although in the wacky world of Formula 1 it is all possible. The chances are that the rumour is there to achieve some other goal. Perhaps a younger driver is asking too much money and Renault wants him to understand that there are other viable options. Perhaps not. In F1 one is never sure. Usually, however, if there is a story leaked there is some reason that this happened.

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  1. on September 17, 2010 at 14:23 F1-Tips.com

    If there’s one driver that’s worth actually paying in F1 it’s Sutil.

    He’s scored 3.5 times as many as his team mate despite finishing the same number of races.

    We’re hoping someone will take a gamble on him next season, we would.


  2. on September 17, 2010 at 14:40 Chris Partridge

    Great read and I agree — there’s nothing in it for Kimi. If he misses the fire of F1 racing, he might be up for it for a few races but would it last? IMO, no. I’d love to see Kimi back but I don’t think it’s likely to happen.


  3. on September 17, 2010 at 15:07 Stefanos

    Joe, you are assuming that F1 drivers are more attracted to the lifestyle and less so to the actual thrill of racing F1 cars. Although it is virtually impossible to detect any emotion in Kimi and therefore assume that it is not something he is capable of experiencing, perhaps he has now decided that it is more fun than going sideways on dust.


  4. on September 17, 2010 at 15:35 Pandamasque

    ” Perhaps a younger driver is asking too much money and Renault wants him to understand that there are other viable options. ”

    Surely you meant bringing too little money?


  5. on September 17, 2010 at 15:46 Chris Ellaby

    Much as I’d love to see Kimi back I think what you say is correct.


  6. on September 17, 2010 at 16:21 Soeren

    I think it’s just Räikkönens manager making noises to get Citroen to part with more cash for Räikkönen.


  7. on September 17, 2010 at 16:28 Watookal

    The thing is even in Kimi’s “worst” year in F1 he was leading the WDC until halfway through the season, and he was still 3rd in the championship in his “worst” year in F1. On top of that I can see why people would have something to say about 2008, but Kimi was actually doing a brilliant job in 2009 with that under developed Ferrari, even Ferrari had to admit that they dont know how he is managing such performances with that car.

    I dont think Kimi’s life is that calmer in WRC compared to F1, he is the main attraction in WRC. However, Kimi looks quite happy in WRC, I dont think he wants to return to F1. It seems more like a case of the Robertsons phoning up every possibility, and Renault decided to make use of it for their own interest.


  8. on September 17, 2010 at 17:12 Soren

    Thanks Joe. But just a quick comment. It is not excuses that the 08 car did not suit his driving style when his own team said the same. Even Schumacher said so in an interview. I dont know why people have such a hard time accepting that :p
    The way he drove in the last part of 09 when they finally got the car working for him also contradicts that.

    You got some very valid points about Kimi and the reasons for why this Renault deal is unlikely. Cheers.


  9. on September 17, 2010 at 17:44 Andy H

    Raikkonen back in F1.
    Their av’in a laff.
    As usual when Joe presents the facts very well.


  10. on September 17, 2010 at 17:51 David Hodge

    @Chris Partridge – I think you’re right. Indeed, I think we can compare the situation to another world champion currently on the grid – Mr. Schumacher. I suspect his fire does not burn quite as bright either.


  11. on September 17, 2010 at 17:58 Steven Roy

    I think the one thing this year has proved is Kimi is never going to be a rallying world champion. His performance towards the end of the season is not significantly better than at the start. He has found his level and while he may improve a little he is nver going to be a threat to Loeb and now it looks like Ogier is going to be the next big thing it is unlikely Kimi will ever threaten him.

    Kimi has also had quite a few substantial crashes this year. It must be a shock to the system to go from F1 where safety is so much higher than could have been imagined in the past to rallying where there are trees and substantial drops if a driver makes a slight mistake or misunderstands a pace note as Kimi has done a couple of times.

    I would think a season bouncing off the scenery and climbing out of badly damaged inverted cars would make F1 a lot more appealing. For mr Kimi at heart is a racing driver.


    • on September 20, 2010 at 05:47 joesaward

      Steven Roy,

      I suggest we wait another year before passing judgement. I think it is too early to say.


  12. on September 17, 2010 at 19:48 patrick

    I’d hang fire, and, if they don’t have confidence in Petrov, bung Sutil or Heidfeld in the second car to pick up steady points and count on Kubica to do the business if the car is anywhere near up to the job. I don’t follow the junior formulae as closely as I used to, but from what I’ve seen of GP2, I don’t see the next Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel or Kubica yet (though I’d be interested to see what Ricciardo might do with a bit more experience).


  13. on September 17, 2010 at 20:23 Anders

    Kimi said late 2009 season that he wants to win more in F1, more race wins, more Championship wins. Yes he said so!

    It seems like that doesn’t support the opinion that he wasn’t willing to stay in F1.

    Also I don’t agree about the 2009 car not suiting him. It did suit him and he said it’s better than the 2008 one :) I know Massa had more points early season but I don’t think that had much to do with pace. For example, he jumped Kimi at Silverstone with a better strategy, it was not about pace but Kimi was stuck in a train and Massa had a free run to jump him with a better strategy, those points account for a lot of the difference. I think with how things were at Ferrari during those times it was more luck who got the most points than about pace. They were both doing what could be done with that car, it was a bad car and they both did a good job with it.


  14. on September 17, 2010 at 20:42 Ed

    I doubt Webber would be a chance at Renault while Flavio remains as his manager.


    • on September 20, 2010 at 05:46 joesaward

      Ed,

      Flavio likes money. End of story.


  15. on September 18, 2010 at 01:01 Bigwagon

    “It’s funny because people now think things are going well and we’re going to change drivers,” he said. “There’s a certain rally driver that wasn’t interested in Formula 1 but now has made contact and is interested in coming back to F1, funnily enough with us, but we’re not there yet.”

    I’d say this quote from Lopez to Autosport is proof Renault is just using the media to generate some PR buzz for the team by throwing Kimi’s name around.


  16. on September 18, 2010 at 01:26 CHUCK JONES

    I really like your take on this one. Frankly it’s a real pleasure to read you always concise, well researched v iew of the variables of F1, past present and future!


  17. on September 18, 2010 at 04:02 Splash And Go: Sept. 17 | The Official Blog of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway

    [...] Saward writes that it makes little sense for Renault to dance with Kimi Raikkonen despite reports that the Kimster and the French team are [...]


  18. on September 18, 2010 at 05:36 Rory

    I have to disagree with you. I don’t think kimi “lost the fire”, he was hampered by bad machinery, and Ferrari’s idiotic choice to attempt to run Massa as a number 1 driver.

    The opinion that Kimi was un-motivated seems to be very popular among journalists who can’t get their heads around the fact that someone might dislike the media side of a sport.

    While Kimi’s record is open to interpretation, the lack of motivation argument seems to be split 50/50 amongst hardcore fans and informed experts, but within the journalistic community this view seems to win out close to 90% of the time. Kimi’s anti-media bias seems to equal the media’s anti-Kimi bias.


  19. on September 18, 2010 at 07:35 pete

    personal opinion but Kimi IS SO FNG BORING.!!.. please don’t drain us down with Kimi… he cant even drive a rally car & thats even harder. He is so boring I dont even know how he gets up in the morning>>?


  20. on September 18, 2010 at 08:06 Rogerthedodger2007

    “..everyone wants to be a Ferrari driver..” Really? That might not be the case if the other Team-member is an Alonsoid or similar fractious egomaniac.


  21. on September 18, 2010 at 10:40 Mike

    Kubica scored 5 times more points than Pietrow. It’s not the best compare i can suggest. Even Lewis Hamilton said that only one driver who is afraid in simillar class of car is Kubica. For me is the best recommendation.

    For me now we have Hamilton, Alonso, Kubica and they are the best drivers in F1.


  22. on September 18, 2010 at 12:03 rubbergoat

    I agree. F1 is a closed chapter in Kimi’s book. I am enjoing his exploits much more now he is rallying and possibly doing other things rather than just F1.

    I would really love to see him at Le Mans – I think he would do great in the successor to the Peugeot 908, and they seem to like hiring drivers who have had F1 experience…


  23. on September 18, 2010 at 13:13 John Beasley

    I have a question. Why do you think, that Kubica “has already been signed for 2013 by one of the big teams”? It’s very interesting theory. In McLaren there are Button and Hamilton, in Ferrari there is Alonso. Kubica don’t goes to Ferrari, because there is FA… So, where will go Kubica in 2013?


    • on September 20, 2010 at 05:43 joesaward

      John Beasley,

      It is just a feeling. I cannot prove anything but I think Robert will move to Ferrari. These days such deals are being done two years in advance and then being kept secret. We saw that with the Ferrari-Kimi deal and then with Ferrari-Alonso.


  24. on September 18, 2010 at 18:48 Mr J

    I have been reading, or should I say browsing your site for a while but with this article, with the insightful no nonsense piece i’m from now on a recurring reader.


  25. on September 18, 2010 at 22:51 Brian Lelas

    Great piece Joe, very insightful as always.

    In my opinion there are many more reliable options than Kimi Raikkonen. He seemed to lose focus entirely after his title win, especially in early 2009 when Brawn were dominating and he seemed to give up after the first race.

    If I was at the Renault team I’d be seriously considering Timo Glock, Adrian Sutil and Kamui Kobayashi. That’s assuming that Kubica is moving on, as he probably should if he is to become the multiple world champion he is destined to be. I think of Kubica before I think of Vettel or Hamilton when it comes to future champions.

    There are no other midfield team drivers I would invest in as team building, team leader types. Sutil has matured and is less prone to crashing these days, and is a solid all-rounder. Glock is a very adaptable and hungry driver who really makes the best of his machinery, particularly when driving for Toyota. Kobayashi is an aggressive driver who has buckets of raw talent and will surely be one of the future stars.

    What are your takes on these drivers in this situation?


  26. on September 19, 2010 at 03:21 Krystian

    Well thought out and insightful piece Joe,

    Your thoughts: IF Mark Webber manages to snatch a World Championship either this year or next, and he reaches the end of his RBR contract and is not renewed, do you believe that he would consider extending his career at another team, or do you think that RBR is where he will drive his last race?


  27. on September 19, 2010 at 12:57 Marko

    Great post. I loved watching Kimi when he was in racing in F1, but it seems like he is on his way downwards. He also seems to brought his ways “off racing” to rally as well…
    He wrote history when he was racing and would not like to see him doing a “Schumaker”…


  28. on September 19, 2010 at 22:21 Stuart Cannan

    Just being pedantic, but Kimi didn’t compete in the New Zealand WRC round… Dani Sordo finished 5th there.


  29. on September 20, 2010 at 08:25 Cláudio Alegria

    I agree with Steven, not so much about the safety aspect but about the performance. Kimi’s doing well for someone who had no experience at all in rallying, but I think by now he’s realized that he’s going to need to improve one hell of a lot if he’s ever going to win a WRC round. That would take years of commitment and it’s still doubtful he could pull it off. Meanwhile, he could jump in into F1 and be a genuine contender… Renault is a good choice as they’re on the rise, and would allow him to do the odd rally just for fun once in a while… The only issue is that they don’t have the money to pay him, and that’s a big issue.

    And as for young drivers Renault could sign for the future, frankly the junior categories seem a bit lacking right now. There’s a large bunch of mildly promising drivers but no obvious future megastar like we’ve seen in previous years ex. Hamilton and Hulkenberg in GP2, or Vettel in FR3.5. And then some of the better kids are already signed, like Ricciardo and Vergne to Red Bull. They’d be better off signing someone with some F1 experience already, such as the already mentioned Sutil, Glock, Kobayashi… or Kimi.


  30. on September 22, 2010 at 01:42 Anna

    this Renault and the Russian money seems more and more interesting…

    …there was a small thing that Renault left out from the press release when they so bullish announced a new russian sponsor who is “attracted to the team by Vitaly Petrov’s promising debut season as Russia’s first ever F1 driver”

    the sponsor has interesting connection to Petrov himself… his father is sitting in the member of bord!

    http://vyborgshipyard.ru/en/?p=board_en

    need I say more about their interests in sponsoring Renault… ;)

    As a russian I would say that thats not called attracting new sponsors, thats called asking for a favor from a family member… The russian market is definitely not in a good state at the moment so I doubt Renault are going to attract new sponsors who actually is attracted to Petrovs performance this year ie hasn’t strong family connection to Petrov… if you have time Joe, dig in to this!



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