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Bad thinking, poor journalism

November 10, 2011 by Joe Saward

My attention has been drawn to an article written recently by an Australian columnist called Jill Singer about the recent deaths in motorsport, in which the author accused race fans for their “complicity” in the accidents and said that “it surprised me that no one could admit they actually enjoy the inherent dangers of track racing. To do so would obviously expose the inner ghoul of spectators. Time and again I was told that people don’t watch for the crashes”. Hit by a barrage of criticism, notably from Mark Webber’s manager/partner Ann Neal, Singer did not question her beliefs but rather went onto the attack and claimed that motorsport causes road accidents and that it would be “a good start to stop glamourising motor sports”.

What a lot of tosh.

One must presume that Singer is paid to try to stir up trouble with her ill-conceived columns, although one cannot imagine that such arguments will really sell any more newspapers.

The first argument that fans watch the sport only to see accidents is simplistic and does not take into account any of the analysis that has been done over the years to try to understand why people risk their lives in dangerous activities, and why it is that people want to watch such things. It is clear from this that risk takers are not self-destructive by nature. They love the competition. Psychologists will tell you that daredevils have a desire to feel intense emotions and may also have a need to be distracted from everyday concerns. Psychologists argue that spectators watch events because they need to experience the thrill of fear in a controlled way, when they are not in real danger. Just like watching a horror movie. Does this mean that all movie buffs who are out for a thrill want to see real people chain-sawed by maniacs?

It is quite clear that very few people wish to see what happens when something goes wrong. Racing people understand that, although all too often general media coverage of such things adopts a different attitude. There is condemnation of a sport that can kill people.

Yet one rarely hears the same condemnation of mountain climbing or horse riding or any other dangerous sports. I don’t know why that is, except perhaps that such condemnation only ever comes when the accidents are in high profile events – and top-level motorsport is high profile.

And this is the key point about road safety. The high profile of the sport is used to great effect to spread the road safety message – and technology – that is aimed at reducing road deaths around the world. It is so easy to hammer out a few lines of ignorance and make wild claims, but clearly Singer has not done her homework. One assumes that she has never heard of the Decade of Action, the work of the FIA Institute and any number of campaigns that teams and drivers have been involved in promoting to spread knowledge and understanding of road safety.

At the end of the day the only conclusion one can draw is that she simply could not be bothered to do the legwork. It was easier just to spout ideas.

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  1. on November 10, 2011 at 15:30 mikey

    she’s well know for being an ass.


  2. on November 10, 2011 at 15:32 M Sheppard

    VERY well put Joe. Utter nonsense from Singe!r


  3. on November 10, 2011 at 15:48 MartynB

    I’ve just had a read this latest piece from her. I had read the original along with Ann Neal’s excellent rebuttal. However from your quote it seems she’s just undermined her whole argument.

    She argues, motorsport causes road accidents by encouraging ‘competitive driving’ and ‘hooning’ (Aussie term for driving silly, burnouts and such as Lewis discovered a while back).

    And then she accuses the same people of going to watch motorsport because of the accidents? That ‘inner ghoul’.

    Surely if you did the latter then you wouldn’t do the former as you’d know how easy it is to crash and what the results can be. Why would you put yourself in that position?

    Are these the same people she’s talking about then? Or are we now two types of idiot? One that wants thinks we can drive like the professionals and another that wants to see death and destruction. Are we all so stupid?

    I’m a big boxing fan but haven’t had a fight since I was a kid (despite the aggravations of a commute into London everyday).

    I’d like to see some comparative figures of injuries and deaths of motorsport compared to other licensed professional sports. There are the obvious (boxing, horse jumping), but I would imagine even say Rugby has more deaths and injuries. Like to see her campaign against rugby in Australia!


  4. on November 10, 2011 at 15:51 John, St Petersburg

    Jill Singer touched a nerve; otherwise Joe wouldn’t T-bone her.

    When asked by my high-minded friends if I watch racing in order to see crashes, I answer “Of course”. It’s denial to say that wrecks are not a racing attraction.

    But death is different. I attended Dan Wheldon’s funeral in St Petersburg; the church was filled with racing fans and big-wigs, there to express our grief that Dan died.

    Living is risky.

    The Rev John Sims


  5. on November 10, 2011 at 15:55 David King

    Weeks after Dan’s crash and the ignorance of mainstream media still makes me so ANGRY. Last week 7 people died in a 35 vehicle crash on the M5 motorway in UK. After the initial story (mobile phone pics aplenty), the main subject? When will the road be re-opened, it’s affecting my day. Bunch of wankers. (Venting complete. Thankyou)


  6. on November 10, 2011 at 15:58 Esben Tipple

    Hear, hear! All to often I hear that “the only exciting thing about racing is the crashes” from my peers, and it’s incredibly frustrating to hear. Having the same thing come from an actual journalist is nothing short of absurd. Good work, Joe!


  7. on November 10, 2011 at 16:16 Chris

    Unfortunately, what Singer has gained by her tripe is a lot of media attention, which will probably help her career. I imagine we will soon see her gracing the pages of one of Murdoch’s trash outlets.


  8. on November 10, 2011 at 16:22 Will Campbell

    A similarly lazy bit of journalism here: http://www.good.is/post/why-dan-wheldon-s-death-should-mean-the-end-of-auto-racing/

    I think a bit of basic male versus female antagonism is at the nub of both arguments. Motor racing is just a “silly boys’ pastime” and therefore it must be wrong. I think just turning a blind eye is the best policy.


  9. on November 10, 2011 at 16:24 Zep

    This is the same person who, on the day of Marco Simoncelli’s sad accident berated many on Twitter (@snooplady) for encouraging others to die for their entertainment.

    A sad indictment for sensationalist journalism from someone who when you put their name into google the third result is “Jill Singer Herald and Sun – Australia’s worst journalist”. Say no more!

    Kudos Joe for speaking out about this curious twisting of the facts.


  10. on November 10, 2011 at 16:25 Jason Liddell

    A lot of tosh is right. I’m sick of this crutch that hack journalists employ each time there’s a motorsports tragedy, suggesting that the tragic result was subconsciously what all the fans were after by watching in the first place.

    In all of these cases, the only “revelation” is this: Those who dislike motorsports will gladly watch, write about and sensationalize the sport *only* after a tragedy. Surely there are other ways to appeal to the ever-cowering, newspaper-buying public.


  11. on November 10, 2011 at 16:29 MartynB

    Ok this got me so cross I thought I’d add a comment. In case it doesn’t get posted here is what I put (there was a character limit too):

    “Have you done any research on this other than a quick google? Cherry picking out the facts you like, leaving the ones you don’t?

    Have you compared fatalities/injuries to other licensed sports? Horse riding, rock climbing, surfing or even rugby? Or is that your next campaign?

    What about the social effects of Rugby or Soccer? Violent behaviour, excess drinking.

    Ok now the road accident encouraged by motorsports. Evidence of that? I firmly believe that if motor racing wasn’t around people would STILL drive too fast. Your quoted report says “encouraged by society”, not motor racing

    How many parents don’t allow their kids toy guns, stop them watching violent TV, then find they make swords and guns out of sticks. Kids will race each other.

    Compare the age of many road accidents caused by dangerous driving. In the UK it’s mostly 15-24, which matches your figure of 18-25. Now compare that to the average motorsport viewer. I’d estimate that to be about ten years older easily (lack of stats online, but one I did find was 44-55, that crazy road hooligan group).

    Now I’d freely admit that was quick research to back up my hunch, but it’s not my job to fact check, it’s yours.”


  12. on November 10, 2011 at 16:45 Andrew

    Almost as bad a piece as the one by this “managing editor”…

    http://www.good.is/post/why-dan-wheldon-s-death-should-mean-the-end-of-auto-racing/


  13. on November 10, 2011 at 16:46 Robert

    Right on the button there Joe.

    Technology developed in race cars has helped save lives in road cars.

    People that watch racing watch for the adrenaline rush they get watching these fast cars go round so quickly and seeing very talented sportsman pull of breathtaking moves, not in the hope that they crash and/or get hurt.


  14. on November 10, 2011 at 16:50 Harvey Spencer

    Well said Joe.


  15. on November 10, 2011 at 16:56 CerinoDevoti

    When I saw the Headline “Bad thinking, poor journalism” I thought you had written about the latest Lewis sob story re: living in a Happy Bubble.

    Re: Jill Singer….. never heard of her.


  16. on November 10, 2011 at 16:58 Nil

    “[A]lthough one cannot imagine that such arguments will really sell any more newspapers.”

    But the lowest common denominator does buy this. The Herald Sun is owned by News Corp.


  17. on November 10, 2011 at 17:05 andy

    well put joe people seem to want to ban motorsport at the drop of a hat regardless of all the safety features that are developed at the track and end up on your car, disc brakes ,four wheel drive ,abs crash structures and plenty more.


  18. on November 10, 2011 at 17:10 Massimo Costa

    Not just in Australia, also in Italy newspaper Repubblica, after Simoncelli’s death, published an article from Giovanni Valentini where he explain that the motorsport is bad exemple for young generation. Sorry for my bad english…


  19. on November 10, 2011 at 17:10 rpaco

    Joe you are just giving this crackpot aussie woman publicity.
    But since we are here now:
    The article linked below carries 77 comments, the gist of which says the woman is crazy, writes for the lowest common denominator rag and should be banished.

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sports/formula-one/columnist-jill-singer-responds-to-mark-webbers-partner-ann-neals-article-says-racing-responsible-for-road-toll/story-e6frf3zl-1226190026702?from=public_rss

    Various links therein to original articles in the rag.

    I always had a job getting my wife to understand that the journey to and from the track were by a huge margin, the most dangerous parts of the day.

    Statistically I believe that air travel is the safest, likewise motorways are far safer than the rest of our roads. For about 30 years I used to spend a large part of my life on motorways and and was never involved in a motorway crash but had several on other roads.

    BTW the Singer woman is now teaching journalism!


  20. on November 10, 2011 at 17:12 colin grayson

    the paper she writes for is owned by news corp
    maybe they are not trying to buy F1 after all , or maybe they forgot to issue an instruction not to Knock F1


  21. on November 10, 2011 at 17:13 Massimo Costa

    Not only in Australia. Also in Italy, newspaper Repubblica published an article signed Giovanni Valentini, after Simoncelli’s death, where he explained that the motorsport is bad exemple for young generation.
    Sorry for my bad english…


  22. on November 10, 2011 at 17:23 neo

    On the other news, Mallya’s Kingfisher airlines has stopped flying for last few days with more than 120 flight cancellations, with total debt of 7057 crore rupees (1.4 billion USD). Due to unpaid salaraies pilot, support staff stopped coming to office and fuel companies stopped giving fuel on credit and asked to pay on daily basis. It is widely expected he will close the airlines in coming days.
    Not sure how is this going to affect his formula 1 team.


  23. on November 10, 2011 at 17:42 Heathroi

    Trolling??….by professional journalists??? I thought that just happened on the internet


  24. on November 10, 2011 at 17:50 Adam

    Amen!


  25. on November 10, 2011 at 17:57 UK Labour Party have the combined brain capacity of an amoeba

    Wow, what a clown this imbecile sounds. It’s such morons one would expect to support the Special Needs Party (UK Labour). She’s not related to Ed Miliband or Ed Balls by any chance? :/


  26. on November 10, 2011 at 18:19 MartinH

    I started watching F1 in 1961 and quickly became a Jim Clark fan. I went to all F1 races in the UK until 1970. In 1970 I stopped following F1. This was a conscious decision at the time. During that time both Jimmy Clark and Jochen Rindt were killed, both of whom I considered to be the best drivers at the time. But those were only the two deaths most notable to me over that period. Countless others died that it was almost routine, and often they died being burned alive. As a fan, you get involved in following your driver and you get invested in them and when someone dies, it leaves a hole even though you have never met them. So in 1970 I decided I couldn’t take it anymore – it was just too distressing.

    But I also have to admit a failing. This was about the time Jackie Stewart started his campaign to make cars and tracks safer. I remember thinking at the time that he should stick to racing and stop whining. I deeply regret that attitude now.

    Around 2000, my brother, who had remained a fervent fan over all those years, came to stay with me for a few months, and I resumed watching the races with him and I am now a fervent F1 fan again. I am extremely grateful that over the years safety has improved dramatically to the extent that people now survive the most horrendous looking accidents.

    I find it very hard to believe anyone watches F1 for the accidents, since if they are looking to see people killed, these days they get a very poor return on investment, thankfully. I believe the overwhelming majority of fans watch for the thrill and excitement, but not to see people die.

    However, I do think the pendulum has swung slightly too far. While I like the huge run off areas so people don’t run wide and hit trees, I do think there should be something like a virtual tree line and if a driver crosses that line he should be forced to retire from the race even if he doesn’t hit anything and contemplate how lucky he is to be able to race again next week. I don’t want drivers to pay for mistakes with their lives, but I also don’t want them driving recklessly simply because it is so safe.


  27. on November 10, 2011 at 18:24 vitaly

    While i think that the accusation of complicity is ridiculous, and i don’t think that motorsport is responsible for road accidents, i also think that the whole road safety promotion is an effort of greenwashing, so its not a good defence.
    i never enjoyed a crash, from my experience, you never think “how awsome”, rather you get a really cold feeling and a sense of “oh my f……. god, why isn’t he moving” whenever something bad happens. thats how i felt after the senna accident, and more recently after massa’s crash in hungary, perez in monaco and hamilton’s accident this year in spa.


  28. on November 10, 2011 at 18:50 GeorgeK

    Wow, I hadn’t realized Ms. Singer had the answers to all of the world’s safety problems. Let’s see, banish all motor sports, maximum permitted driving speed limits anywhere 15 MPH, ban all contact sports, horse racing, mountain climbing, para sailing, sky diving, etc. etc.

    Joe, you thought some of the comments you receive from your readers are daft? Heh, heh, thanks for the posting, Ms. Singer makes my observations come across as rational!


  29. on November 10, 2011 at 19:04 Rob

    I don’t normally like to comment on all things racing as I don’t consider myself well informed enough to add anything useful. However, in this instance I do. As far as I am concerned I could not care less if I never see another accident in motorsport in my life as I see the results of road traffic collisions in my professional life all too often, and the resultant devestation it causes to peoples lives.


  30. on November 10, 2011 at 19:23 raceoftwoworlds

    Well said Joe. I’ve already sent Singer a terse email making very similar points a couple of weeks back. Futile I know, but you’ve gotta stand up for what you believe in. Some journalists aren’t really journalists, are they? If she was right then no safety improvements would ever be made in motorsports, nor would any tears be shed when a life was lost. It was those who weren’t usually interested in Moto GP or Indycar who were pouring over gratuitous photos and videos, my twitter feed showed that the real followers of these sports were shocked and appalled as were the real journalists.


  31. on November 10, 2011 at 19:39 Alan

    Hmm just read Singer’s latest drivel filled diatribe.

    Disgusting self-serving, ill-informed ranting by someone who clearly does not have a clue about the subject on which they have written.

    Has anyone else heard anything about this apparent sponsorship deal between Red Bull and Mark Webber?

    I also wonder if Mr Mateschitz could point his lawyers in the direction of her last couple of paragraphs. I’d like to see her substantiate those accusations and assertions…


  32. on November 10, 2011 at 19:52 Rob Evans

    There is an expression in interweb-land that I have only recently encountered. It’s called ‘Click-bait’. The principle of it appears to be that a poster, blogger or journo posts an opinion so inflammatory and provocative on their website that news of it quickly spreads. Astonishingly quickly, nowadays, what with Twitter and all that. The result, if you have been posted something particularly offensive, is that your site quickly gets an awful lot of page hits from people all over the world. Great news for the owners of the website, as they can then go to their advertisers and proudly crow about the number of ‘uniques’ they’ve had that month and use that as a means to garner more advertising revenue. For clarification, ‘uniques’ are queries from individual IP addresses. Effectively, the amount of uniques you record is broadly indicative of the amount of people who have read the post.

    So.

    Given that Singer’s original post and her response to Ann Neal’s are so spectacularly offensive, arrogant, illogical and devoid of rational analysis – not least her rant on twitter calling people grieving for the loss of Sic ‘idiots’ and that their grief was ‘fake’ – there are two hypotheses I have for her behaviour.

    1 She really hasn’t got a clue, and doesn’t have the intellect to recognise it.

    2. Click-bait. She’s very smart, laughing all the way to a lovely bonus from her editor, and infinitely more callous than the Motorsport fans she purports to decry.


  33. on November 10, 2011 at 20:23 Nicholas Johns

    I hope for her sake she does not work for a Murdoch owned pulication!


  34. on November 10, 2011 at 20:23 max

    This venemous journalist has never succeeded at any of the positions she has occupied, in the print or electronic media. Her most famous achievement to date has been the collapsing (some say “feigning”) in front of the camera. It is amazing that the editors of the Herald Sun continue to publish her articles, which are vicious and add nothing to any subject she chooses to ramble about.


  35. on November 10, 2011 at 20:33 Jane

    You nailed it Joe.


  36. on November 10, 2011 at 20:35 Just A View

    Joe, Singer is a well known fool. I should know I live in Australia. The best way to treat her is to ignore her. It’ll not only drive her mad but finally make her employer dump her.


  37. on November 10, 2011 at 20:36 Steven Roy

    I have met people who have admitted that they love big accidents but they are few and far between and none of them liked seeing anyone hurt they only liked the spectacle of the crash. I can’t say I understand the attraction of accidents but I think it depends where the interest in the sport comes from. For me motor racing fans are either sports fans, car fans, entertainment seekers or some combination of those. The people who are only looking for entertainment can enjoy accidents.

    For me most racing fans are either car or sports fans and those people enjoy watching drivers pushing cars to the limit and doing things they know they could never do themselves.

    While it can be argued that motor racing has made a contribution to safety people leaving a track regularly drive faster than they would normally.


  38. on November 10, 2011 at 20:39 David Ryan

    Have just read all three articles and I agree completely – she simply does not have a clue what she is talking about. As a matter of fact, I find her claim that fans such as myself “get off” on seeing what happened to Dan Wheldon and Marco Simoncelli (among many others) deeply offensive and bordering on libelous. It’s also quite amusing that she sees motorsport as the sole culprit for dangerous driving and that it’s nothing whatsoever to do with too much testosterone, films like The Fast and the Furious…or the simple fact that driving is a risky undertaking, full stop. F1 and motorsport recognised that some time ago – perhaps she would do well to follow their example.


  39. on November 10, 2011 at 20:46 Matt Stanford

    Previously the host of a magazine current affairs show here in Australia that dabbled in carpark confrontations and ‘shocking exposé’ where the defendant was somehow never available for comment, she’s a tirade for hire. Unfortunately we seem to be breeding them down here at the moment.
    I wouldn’t dispute some spectators enjoy action in whatever form, I think most people would walk away from an action-packed but incident-free race very happy; non-Motorsport enthusiasts seem to struggle to comprehend that the arm wrestle of pure racing is genuinely entertaining.


  40. on November 10, 2011 at 20:56 Keith

    I think a lot of the R&D done in motor racing over the years has found itself, directly and in directly in the motor vehicles we drive today.
    I can think of two right now, been brakes and tyre development. Due to my advance years, I can remember a lot of early cars I drove and how bad the brakes were. Great big massive engines, but try to stop it at speed, and there was a problem.

    Do I or my friends watch motor racing to see crashes, no, we watch it to see the skill of the drivers, the car development that has been done over the years. All a person needs to do is go to a museum and see cars from the 1980’s and look at what we see today on the track. All the new developments that have gone on in the last 30 years. I can say the same about our everyday life, and how the mobile phone has changed and developed over the years to what we now call the Smart Phone.

    As for risks, well mountain climbing is a high risk sport, the same can be said of scuba diving, yet are not talked about in the same way.


  41. on November 10, 2011 at 21:03 gavyn

    A more balanced view and, I think, quite a good one can be read here:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eleanoroldroyd/2011/11/end_game.html


  42. on November 10, 2011 at 21:07 DaveMyers

    She sounds like a ‘journalist’ in the mould of Jan Moir or Melanie Phillips…


  43. on November 10, 2011 at 21:47 Nick

    Hi Joe, I actually posted this link to you the day she published the article, im grateful youuu took the time to actually write a thorough response to it! Unfortunately people like her will never learn though…


  44. on November 10, 2011 at 22:03 Adrian Newey Jnr

    Joe – she writes for a paper best used to wrap greasy fish and chips. Need I say more?


  45. on November 10, 2011 at 22:25 Jordan

    Her article only solidifies her reputation as one of our most mediocre ‘journalist’.

    Jordan from Australia.


  46. on November 10, 2011 at 22:28 Ted the Mechanic

    I have feared far more for the safety of rider and horse when watching clips of the Badminton Horse Trials on the 6 O’Clock News over the years than I’ve ever felt (on average) after watching hundreds of hours of motorsport on TV. A quick search on Google under “Eventing” yielded the following Wikipedia confirmation of my fears (apologies for the cut & paste but it does say it all): -

    “Between 1997 and December 2008, at least 37 eventing riders died as a result of injuries incurred while competing in the cross-country phase of eventing at national or international level or at Pony Club. Of these, 18 riders died in the period 2006–2008. These 37 fatal falls have been at all levels of the sport, from domestic one-day events up to regional championships level, and they have occurred in most of the recognized eventing countries around the world, with concentrations in the United Kingdom (14) and the United States (8). At least 25 of these 37 deaths have resulted from a somersaulting (rotational) fall of the horse, with 11 of the 16 deaths in 2007 and 2008 being reported as having resulted from a rotational horse fall”

    No rider deaths mentioned under Badminton but several horses.


  47. on November 10, 2011 at 22:37 Ken

    Like everyone else Jill is entitled to her opinion however it is worth noting that she is employed by News Corp to give opinion and to sell newspapers. Noboby ever said that it had to be correct although I stupidly used to believe once that they had to deal in facts and truth. I live in Melbourne and have long since stopped reading News Corp newpapers because of the rubbish they print. I fear we have given Jill exactly what she wanted .. air space.

    If you think that News Corp in oz is different to News in the UK (apparently they are having a bit of bad luck there) look up the Melbourne Storm rugby league club. Does the story of a business (Storm) owned and run by News Corp getting caught cheating and their defence was “it wasn`t us, it was a lone staff member” sound familiar? The owner of the competition (NRL) is News and the bulk of the competition`s money comes from tv rights which is owned by .. News. It all bodes well for F1 if News Corp are successful in taking them over.


  48. on November 10, 2011 at 22:43 Jonathan

    A column like the one you describe simply doesn’t deserve to be acknowledged.
    Joe, I’m surprised you have bothered.


    • on November 11, 2011 at 06:05 joesaward

      Jonathan,

      Stupid it may be, but one needs to shoot these things down in flames.


  49. on November 10, 2011 at 22:48 Jack Flash (Aust)

    I wouldn’t get too bent out of shape about such crap coming from her.

    This is how she is described in Australian circles from as far back as September 2009 (see link below):

    http://www.australiasworstjournalist.com.au/media/newspaper/herald-sun/6/

    This is the “Australia’s Worst Jounalist” media watchdog website. She is a multiple weekly winner. The Herald Sun in Melbourne is given a bake for even continuing to publish the ill-informed and antagonistic stuff she serves up.

    Publication of tripe doesn’t legitimise it. JF


  50. on November 10, 2011 at 23:07 Frank

    I’m attracted to motorsport for many reasons, and if I’m honest, the danger is a part of that, but there is a profound difference between enjoying the danger and enjoying people being injured. If Jill Singer won’t admit that difference, she’s being disingenuous.


  51. on November 10, 2011 at 23:13 Dave B

    To put Jill Skinner in perspective, she write articles for a tabloid (Hearld Sun) out here in Australia. The paper is hardly reputable by anyone with half brains standard. She is paid to write trash and clearly doesnt understand the topics she writes about.

    She has also received a number of votes for Australia’s worst journalist. See below:
    http://www.australiasworstjournalist.com.au/media/newspaper/herald-sun/6-jill-singer


  52. on November 10, 2011 at 23:20 David Hodge

    Complete and utter bollocks. This particular race fan watches to see the best drivers operate the best machines faster than we could ever dream. I wish she had been a fly on my wall when, for example, Schumacher recently rode over the back of a car… or Perez or Rosberg in Monaco… Whooping and hollering and going “wow, wasn’t that great” was certainly not the reaction here.


  53. on November 10, 2011 at 23:36 RobbieMeister

    You are right it what you say, mostly. But living where I do , in the south
    of England.

    I can’t have helped but notice that the driving standards have got patricularly worse in recent years. Almost in direct proportion to the antics of one M. Schumacher.

    Examples:
    Overtaking on the left.
    Comming up behind a car in front at high speed and tail gaiting.

    Having driven for the best part of 45 years and having followed motor sport for considerably longer I can say that from my perspective the standard of decline in road driving is in some way proportional to the decline in standard in F1 driving.

    And however the FIA want to package it up for the numpties consumption they have a case to answer for thier failures to act strongly and deciseviely in the past.

    Hear endeth the lesson.


  54. on November 11, 2011 at 01:09 Joshua Eddy

    Jill Singer writes for the Herald Sun, a Murdoch rag that is the journalistic equivalent of a barium enema.
    She was also the producer of “Today Tonight” a trash show that races to the bottom of any subject, but generally revolves around telling ignorant people that they are being ripped off somehow, spruiking some new weight loss method, or involving some boobs in some way.
    To say that she has little journalistic integrity or moral fortitude would be the same as insinuating that being attacked by thousand of starving rodents made of broken glass and carrying bubonic plague is a little unpleasant.
    I would rather wake up and find my nether regions had been replaced with a television screen that only plays “Jersey Shore” than read one word of the doggerel she writes.
    If I actually thought she believed it, I may question her intelligence too, though I fear she is just trolling along to try and stave of her inevitable descent into obscurity.


  55. on November 11, 2011 at 02:10 APASUNOCAPAS

    :) – when you wake up to find there is another blog post on your blog :) :) – when it’s a bit one :) :) :) – and it involves Australia..we are finally noticed in the world on f1.. :( :(:(:(:( – when it’s someone fringe idiot causing trouble.

    I agree with most of the blog except for the part about being paid to stir up trouble, I doubt it, she’s just been hit in the head and thinks that way. Trying to be different and edgy and getting it wrong


  56. on November 11, 2011 at 02:32 Tony G

    Joe I wouldn’t spend a lot of time worrying about the “opinions” of Ms Singer. A quick Google search elicited this under a website which gives awards for Australia’s worst journalists, and we have quite a few of those. To quote: “This venemous journalist has never succeeded at any of the positions she has occupied, in the print or electronic media. Her most famous achievement to date has been the collapsing (some say “feigning”) in front of the camera. It is amazing that the editors of the Herald Sun continue to publish her articles, which are vicious and add nothing to any subject she chooses to ramble about”.

    She used to front one of the trashy current affairs shows commercial television here shows and managed to collapse on camera one night. If memory serves she got the sack and then tried to claim a stress related injury at her wrongful dismissal case. I don’t think she succeeded.


  57. on November 11, 2011 at 02:32 build

    Jill Singer is unfortunately an embarrassment to all Australians. Her sweeping generalisations range from ill informed to absolute rubbish.

    Interestingly having read through many of the comments I failed to find one comment supporting Singer.


  58. on November 11, 2011 at 02:37 bt52b

    Remember when Senna died and Max went to the car manufacturers looking for crash data to help improve safety, but couldn’t get anything useful. Then he embarked on the road that lead to the EU introducing better road car crash tests in 1997 and the FIA helped setup EuroNCAP to keep the manufacturers honest.

    The main stream media tend to follow the mantra ‘if bleeds it leads’.

    Jill Singer is on the planet ‘BatS***Crazy’ so its not worth arguing with a piece of work like that.


  59. on November 11, 2011 at 02:41 TokyoSpark (@TokyoSpark)

    Mark Webbers manager and partner Ann Neal has already responded, and Jill Singer has responded with an even trashier rant about Red Bull sponsorship and road deaths. We should just ignore her from now on I think.


  60. on November 11, 2011 at 03:33 Adrian

    I agree with you Joe. I hate watching serious accidents but I love my motorsport. I’ve deliberately avoided video of the Wheldon or Simoncelli accidents as I find it disturbing. I much prefer the relatively safe modern F1 to the high death toll past. On the other side of things minor accidents are part of the drama of the race; not something to be desired, but an important part of the spectacle. Minor accidents can help show case the skill of the drivers and the strategic thinking as well as change the overall flow of a race. 100% safe racing would be of much less interest.


  61. on November 11, 2011 at 04:45 sandeep

    @RobbieMeister, so do you propose to stop overtaking from the outside in f1?like joe says
    WHAT A LOAD OF TOSH!!!


  62. on November 11, 2011 at 05:15 spiritofspeed

    Ann’s response to the first article was absolutely fabulous – but the reply from Singer made me cringe, as a woman, a journalist, an Australian, and a motor sport fanatic. It was childish and she spent half of it essentially saying that Ann was a gold digger and Mark was brainless (because he was worried about getting food poisoning in India). This woman is a disgrace to the human race.


  63. on November 11, 2011 at 08:04 rubbergoat

    Joe,

    I agree. I’m really surprised that a national newspaper would allow such rubbish to be printed. I was really angry when I read it too!


  64. on November 11, 2011 at 11:27 john g

    robbiemeister, you’re taking the piss right?
    (feel free to insert a woosh above my head!)


  65. on November 11, 2011 at 11:38 Snowy

    Using the same “logic” trotted out by this moronic woman, football fans (of any code) only attend matches to see players stretchered off with broken legs, dislocated shoulders, ruptured knees etc etc.

    When is she going to write a story about that?!


  66. on November 11, 2011 at 12:19 Mappy

    http://www.australiasworstjournalist.com.au/media/newspaper/herald-sun/6-jill-singer

    Says about all, really.


  67. on November 11, 2011 at 12:36 means

    She worked for “Today/Tonight”…this tells me she’s a rubbish hack and not worth watching/listening/reading


  68. on November 11, 2011 at 12:38 The Radical

    Hi Joe, it’s been all over the papers here in Oz, couldn’t agree more that Jill Singer doesn’t know the first thing about Formula One, about motorsport, and not least the dim-witted point she is trying to prove. Then to attack Webber personally – blaming him for hooning, she is seriously clutching at straws Here’s my own take on the fiasco – http://real-motorsport.com/2011/11/09/webber-to-blame-for-dangerous-driving/


  69. on November 11, 2011 at 14:03 GeorgeK

    @RobbieMeister

    Can’t believe declining driving skills (as opposed to standards) should be placed at the foot of F1. Here in the USA NO-BOD-EE seems to know how to drive in traffic (fast or slow), park, or have any consideration for faster or slower moving traffic. The horn and the raised single digit salute have replaced courtesy on every level, often augmented by cell phone usage.

    And as everyone knows we don’t have a large segment of drivers who are into F1; and please don’t blame NASCAR either.


  70. on November 11, 2011 at 14:55 Damien Marquez (@damien_marquez)

    Sensationalism at its best. She works for the Herald Sun, a paper owned by News Limited that provides, as the saying goes, limited news.

    They’re part of Murdoch’s NewsCorp.


  71. on November 11, 2011 at 21:59 Hayden

    There’s not a lot in Australian journalism that’s worth reading these days. A race to the bottom as they say.


  72. on November 12, 2011 at 03:33 CerinoDevoti

    Please excuse my earlier comment. I admit I’m a bit stupid.


  73. on November 14, 2011 at 10:35 Jamie

    Very well put. Another great article Joe!


  74. on November 14, 2011 at 14:38 TimW

    The question of crashes as entertainment is a difficult one isn’t it? If somehow somebody could guarantee that there would be zero accidents in the Brazil GP, I would still watch. Because I care who wins and love to see the cars racing and being driven on the edge.I really dont watch for the crashes, but they are often spectacular events and of course will grab your attention. I guess the best ones to watch are the big debris scattering types where the car disentegrates, it’s always a relief though when you see the steering wheel pop out of the wreckage and the driver haul himself out before nonchalantly strolling away. I certainly remember the sick feeling when Kubica and Massa didnt jump out of their wrecked cars after their big accidents in Canada and Hungary. I didn’t enjoy that and hope I never feel like that again.
    I think crashes are an inevitable by product of the drivers pushing their cars to the limit and racing closely together, you can’t have one without the other.



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