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Five hours and 45 minutes after the race…

November 19, 2012 by Joe Saward

GP+ is the fastest magazine in the Formula 1 World. We are out just a few hours after each Grand Prix, uploaded for the fans all over the world, direct from the F1 Paddock. GP+ is produced by professional F1 reporters and photographers, with access to the stars and the movers and shakers of F1.

In this week’s issue, we bring you the story of Lewis Hamilton’s nail-biting victory in Austin.

PLUS

… the race when the Grand Prix drivers were shot at

… Rick Mears, what might have been in F1

We look at the recent Young Driver Test

…and, a look back Renault’s 150 F1 victories

Plus, all the usual reports and columns and, of course, the fantastic photography of Peter Nygaard and his team.

If you want to know more, go to http://www.grandprixplus.com

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  1. on November 19, 2012 at 2:26 am Kate

    I am glad I spent the money to go to the race! What did you think of the new track Joe?


    • on November 19, 2012 at 1:34 pm Joe Saward

      Great


  2. on November 19, 2012 at 4:59 am StephenAcworth

    Alonso’s “pride” at the team for sabotaging Massa’s grid position puts me in mind of Singapore in 2008. A team-mate being asked to sacrifice their race for Fernando. I guess we’ll never know the truth of his involvement in that incident, but I find it very sad that team orders are allowed to play out this way.

    As Red Bull take a magnificent third consecutive WCC, Ferrari are forced to play such bad moves to try to gain something out of defeat. Hardly noble, is it?

    I accept that Alonso has wrung more out of the car this year than is decent; but really, is that the way to take the fight to your competitors? Asking (telling) your teammate to throw away his advantage. Strange it doesn’t qualify as ‘bringing the sport into disrepute’ with a disqualification for Alonso.

    I know plenty of people here will talk about F1 being a team sport, and I agree that it is. But this action goes beyond my definition of playing a team game. Smacks of Rubens being ordered over in Austria. Ferrari just cannot stand being beaten and will do (al)most anything to win something.

    A little desperate; a little pathetic too…


    • on November 19, 2012 at 1:34 pm Joe Saward

      The rules are the rules. Ferrari did not break a rule.


      • on November 19, 2012 at 1:40 pm StephenAcworth

        Letter of or spirit of?

        I accept that the rules were not infringed, but do you honestly accept that this is how the rules were intended to be interpreted?


        • on November 19, 2012 at 3:09 pm Joe Saward

          It does not matter. That is how F1 works.


          • on November 19, 2012 at 5:35 pm Toleman fan

            Am I the only one who has no issue at all with Ferrari, but am -extremely- unimpressed that the governing body allowed the situation to get so completely out of hand that it was worth doing?

            What happened to Hamilton’s vey sensible request to scrub the whole grid, to at least even it out a bit?

            And if race organisers can’t achieve even remotely similiar conditions for the two sides of the grid, why shouldn’t the rules be written to allow drivers to -choose- grid positions in their qualifying order, instead of being allocated? Then Hamilton could have taken the 3rd spot, & Webber would have had the choice to take 2nd, or drop back to 5th if he thought the difference big enough. That way, however poorly some drivers lost out, at least there’d be a basic fairness in how the grid was formed. I’m sure in the WRC there’s a rule that gives the lead driver at least a little discretion over running order, if he thinks being first on the road would penalise him.


            • on November 23, 2012 at 7:11 pm John (other John)

              I’m with you on governance systems failing, if that’s what you mean. Anyone who thinks that a system is going to be managed simply by being statuesque and keeping their head down is simply conning everyone who interacts with the system. I did appreciate JT’s initially modest approach, but F1 and the FIA are, or should be, living, breathing systems. You need a heart pumping at the center, and one which is both strong and knows when to care and not care, yet can play the game with all the inevitable and wonderful rule breakers. I wonder if who is running this has never been to a school before .. at least a interesting one.


        • on November 19, 2012 at 3:16 pm rpaco

          There is no such thing as the spirit of the rules.
          If the FIA wished they could write the rules differently, but they persist with the current form, therefore it is every team’s duty to use them to maximise their chances.


      • on November 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm Manalive

        Not a black-and-white rule, no, but there is still the ‘bringing the sport into disrepute’ issue: if the coded message to Massa fell foul of this (which the FIA judged that it did), why doesn’t this? Ferrari’s conduct, throwing one game to improve their odds in another, sounds very similar to the Olympic badminton players succesfully charged with “conducting oneself in a manner that is clearly abusive or detrimental to the sport”.


        • on November 19, 2012 at 5:37 pm Toleman fan

          The only people who brought the sport into disrepute were the race organisers and authorities. If you can’t achieve anything remotely like parity between the two halves of the grid, so that drivers are randomly rewarded for slow quali times and punished for quick ones, responsibility for anything within the letter of the rules that teams do to limit the damage lands right back with you. Simple as.


      • on November 19, 2012 at 2:38 pm David Hodge

        Something else we will probably never know is once Red Bull had got wind of Ferrari’s intentions, was Mark Webber going to have a gearbox problem also and thus put Ferdinand back on the dirty side?


        • on November 19, 2012 at 5:27 pm The Kitchen Cynic

          Good luck getting Webber to play ball on that one. I wonder if he still wants to be no2 at Ferrari quite so much now…


        • on November 19, 2012 at 5:37 pm Phil C

          The problem with that situation would be that there’s one less car between Alonso and Vettel – Red Bull want him to finish as far back as he can. While all the talk of the ‘dirty side’ of the grid could have been true (in terms of losing at least two places at the start), Red Bull would have had a guaranteed car between the two, and one that could back Alonso into the pack should it be needed…


    • on November 19, 2012 at 3:03 pm John (other John)

      I understand it’s a annoying move, but put me in Massa’s boots for a moment, and I would be thinking “Hell yeah, what’s to loose?” because it is far better to be in a team that just won the WDC than not. The move sucked, but not as much as giving up chances to win, and all that comes from that, even as a No. 2. Though he ended up whining enough to loose me as a fan, Rubens parleyed his seat into a minor commercial empire. Something we forget, that he could boo hoo his way home on his own jet. Man, if I had all that, I’d not have been wailing but out to have fun and kick ass and be beaming at the audience, sloppy seconds by default or not. Sorry for the Rubens rant, but it’s all about style. Screwing over Felipe had no style. That’s the thing that’s awful. I don’t know how many F1 fans / geeks can afford a Ferrari, though any serious race goer likely can lease any model, but they ought to at least think of their branding.


  3. on November 19, 2012 at 9:57 am adam smith

    Do you think seb was deliberately taking it easy because of reliability?


    • on November 19, 2012 at 1:33 pm Joe Saward

      No


  4. on November 19, 2012 at 12:48 pm Steve Deakin

    Great race I thought, plenty action and enthusiasm from the crowd. Apparently
    117,429 people attended Sunday, total attendance over three days 265,499 (82,710 Sat; 65,360 Fri). I wish total attendance figures weren’t inflated in this way though, we’re talking about the same people, in the main, so race day figures are more reliable as a guide.

    Good to see LH on unbeatable form.


    • on November 19, 2012 at 1:32 pm Joe Saward

      Those figures were about right. This is how these things are done.


  5. on November 19, 2012 at 12:48 pm Ale

    that parting shot… is that for real, or someone having a dig at Tavo??


    • on November 19, 2012 at 1:31 pm Joe Saward

      It was real. Tavo is in legal action with the circuit people.


  6. on November 19, 2012 at 2:54 pm I luv chicken

    Great bit of stratagy by Ferrari, to assure that both cars would start on the clean side of the grid.
    One more thing I noticed is that the pit lane entrance on to the finish line, was a lot shorter than driving the track.
    Was there any mention from the stewards regarging the possible short cut through the pits?
    If not, then it would have been an interesting manoeuvre at the end of the race, if the cars were close enough.


    • on November 19, 2012 at 4:22 pm Steve Clen-Murphy

      pit lane speed limit negates the advantage I suspect.


    • on November 19, 2012 at 5:46 pm Phil C

      It may have looked shorter, but the corner into the pits is tighter and narrower, meaning the car entering the pit lane would have to slow down significantly prior to the speed limit line…


  7. on November 19, 2012 at 5:09 pm Peter A Forbes

    Notwithstanding the Ferrari pre-race activity, it wasn’t a bad weekend, although in the UK we didn’t get to see much of it in real time.

    GP+ was good, as always, appreciate the time and effort put into it and for making it factual reporting.


  8. on November 19, 2012 at 9:42 pm rpaco

    “The only injury all day was a spectator who refused to obey the orders of the militia beside the track and was bayoneted as a result! ”

    Now there you have proper enthusiastic marshalling. :-)

    Another cracking edition Joe.


    • on November 20, 2012 at 11:25 am John (other John)

      Now that’s how you do ‘elf ‘n safety!


  9. on November 20, 2012 at 2:55 pm r.bartlett

    What’s the general opinion of PDR these days as his season has tailed off -as it did last year- and he doesn’t seem quite to be the one to die for driver as he was at the beginning of the season

    perhaps a good time for a complete driver line up change at FI?


  10. on November 21, 2012 at 7:30 pm glyn stacey

    I watched the highlights on i-player and WOW! That is a facility and circuit to be proud of and under that big, blue sky it looked the Dog’s.

    Loved the Rick Mears article as he was so, so smooth and a real gent it seemed. Read this article and compare and comment http://www.gordonkirby.com/categories/columns/theway/2012/the_way_it_is_no361.html.

    Pity no feature on U-11, although the week was a great sucess!



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