Disgraceful people – if you know them, turn them in

Thames Valley Police is appealing for witnesses after a burglary at Red Bull Racing in Milton Keynes last night.

The thieves drove a vehicle through the front entrance and stole over 60 trophies belonging to the Red Bull Racing team.

Two cars were involved in the burglary. A silver 4×4 which was used to drive through the entrance and a further dark coloured, black or dark blue Mercedes estate car. Both are believed to have foreign number plates.

There is no description of the offenders. They were all wearing dark clothing.

If you have any information that may assist the investigation, please contact Milton Keynes Force CID on the Thames Valley Police non-emergency enquiry centre number 101. If calling from overseas, please dial +44 1865 841148 to contact Thames Valley Police.

If you don’t want to speak directly to the police you can contact the independent charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111 or online at http://www.crimestoppers-uk.org. No personal details are taken, information is not traced or recorded and you will not go to court.

“We are obviously devastated by this serious factory break in,” said Christian Horner. “The break-in caused significant damage and was very upsetting for our night officers who were on duty at the time. The offenders took items that not only did not belong to them, but which represented the efforts of a group of dedicated, hard-working individuals. Beyond the aggressive nature of this break-in, we are perplexed why anyone would take these trophies. The value to the team is of course extraordinarily high due to the sheer hard work and effort that went into winning each and every one. But their intrinsic value is low; they would be of little benefit to those outside of the team and, in addition to that, many of the trophies on display were replicas.

“We would like to appeal to anyone who knows any information on the whereabouts of these trophies or the offenders involved to contact Thames Valley Police.”

85 thoughts on “Disgraceful people – if you know them, turn them in

  1. a little off topic but I’ve often wondered about the what happens to the trophies when do teams give them back to the race circuit

    1. I was wondering about this too. Presumably the same reason people still purchase stolen, unique works of art for private collections, the fact they possess it is worth more to them than being able to tell anybody.

    2. Maybe some chaps who contributed greatly to the recent RB successes and felt under appreciated? The value of trophies may have had nothing to do with the motive; sheer spite can be a powerful motive unto itself.

  2. Read about this incident this morning. Absolutely disgusted!!!

    Let’s hope that the perpetrators, and trophies turn up soon.

  3. Can only hope the value of the haul (being mainly fake) wasn’t worth their costs of planning and executing this raid. Lowlifes. Glad no one working there was hurt.

    1. i cant imagine there was much planning. I dont thinks its a coincidence that photos of Vettel in the trophy room were plastered through the media, then said trophy room is raided a few days later.

  4. What a peculiar crime. Those responsible must be very clever or very stupid. Yet more fuel for conspiracy theorists.

  5. The only motive has to be spite! Unless the Thieves think that a ransom will be paid ? Daft and stupid. My sympathy goes out to the staff on duty just doing their job ,and to the whole team in general.

  6. There’s a serious problem with metal thefts in the UK.
    It’s possible these morons thought they were taking solid silver trophies and not the chrome plated plastic that many of them are made from. Sadly, the police don’t have a lot of success in catching metal thieves.

    1. Your answer is the most likely.

      As the adage goes, Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Or as some have put it, incompetence is far more frequent than conspiracy.

      These idiots likely didn’t realize that even Formula One trophies are largely made of pot metal and plastic. Some few of the baubles might have a micron or two of electroplated precious metal on the surface, but the scrap value of the entire lot is probably less than 50 pounds, probably a lot less.

      Of course, it’s a lot more fun to believe that Sebastian Vettel employed a crew of international jewel thieves to steal back trophies he felt rightly his, forever to be displayed in his secret lair.

    2. The metal is probably not (?) doped, unlike power and data cables used by Network Rail and the telecoms companies these days. Still got to catch somebody in possession of it though.

    3. Something like silver- or gold-plated iron could be deceptive in terms of overall weight of a trophy, convincing the thieves they’ve got high value items to bargain with when in fact it’s as cheap as chips.

  7. Why didn’t the guards shoot them? I suspect they were not from England, but perhaps from the Middle East where some rich person will display them in secret for his enjoyment. Another option would be a sort of terror attack at the foundation of what makes English sport tick- auto racing. I smell a rat here. If the security guards were not armed, then tell me what good are they? This is private, personal property and the English must understand that they have the God-given right to defend themselves and their property.

      1. Nor do you blame people “from the Middle East” for everything bad that happens, or see terrorists lurking in every corner. Thank you for remaining sane.

        1. I suspect you may be right, but if so then it’s failed in that it has no context to the event. Just reeling out some cardboard cutout gun loving American stereotype in a story that has no relation to it, and in the comments section of an F1 journalist’s blog? It’s only ever going to be taken out of context by anyone reading it. This is a story about a break in at an F1 team, not about guns, the right to defend a property or shooting people.

          1. How is it not about guns, the right to defend a property or shooting people?
            If the security guards were armed this wouldn’t be a story as the trophies would still be sitting snugly in Red Bull’s trophy cabinet.
            That is exactly what it is about but you are too mired in the left dogma that “guns are bad” to see that guns can actually be useful and beneficial in preventing criminals from committing crimes

            1. My father is a security officer at Mercedes, and they are instructed to observe and report to the police, rather than confront intruders. I’m sure that is probably common across the security industry in the UK. Give guns to security officers and suddenly every third-rate burglar thinks they have to have guns too, and we’d be possibly reading a story about a dead or wounded security officer, rather than story about stolen trophies.

      2. People don’t much walk around with guns in the States, either. For a extreme view of positions and reactions, see the “open carry” debate. Men (almost invariably) exercising their legal right to openly carry a weapon in public. It doesn’t appear to be much sympathized with.

        You do see LEO open carry in the City Of London, for some protection units, time to time. That, I don’t find disturbing. A pal was arguing that he’d wish we hired demobbed forces boys not the police force and armed them.. On the whole, i’d never stress if a fully trained professional is carrying. Screening for trauma like PSTD, however, is difficult. So much of these things is self reported, and the incentive to scupper your interview is not high.

        I agree with much of what the Reid. Major argues. However, when we talk about gun culture, we also talk about culture of managing the population of weapons, which requires a culture of sensibility that’s hard to engender. Consider Switzerland’s standing citizen army.

        Private guards with weapons jut looks like a problem, in the wider context, in the UK. If it’s any consolation, punishment for repeated burglaries is not soft, with a “three strikes” rule that is aggressively pursued. I’ve time to time become aware of how easy it might be to obtain a weapon, in London. Serious criminals I think would be armed in no time. A recent story, I am inclined to believe, is of a man in a argument in the local park, nipping back home and returning with a gun. That and a fair few similar stories, incline me to think that arming the defenders of property, would be a invitation to knee jerk escalation. I would also say we have a added complication in the UK, if you look at the religious composition of prison populations, especially of longer term inmates. Strong beliefs in the mercifulness of the afterlife, admitted at the fulcrum of a potential criminal career, doesn’t sound great, without any negative comment intended towards the solace that beliefs provide to many.

        The reason why I agree largely with the Retd. Major’s comment is the sentiment to exhort us to stand up proud. Let’s do that, but skip presenting arms. That, probably, is more quintessentially, British, on reflection.

      1. I bet if someone broke into your property you would wish you were armed and would have quite a different view on it.
        Your sympathy for criminals is beyond logic.
        Personally, I value myself, my family, and property more than some criminal’s rights. But that’s just me

          1. Yeah, this is the logic I just don’t get. Yeah, I’d probably give a thief a broken nose and a stint in jail… but nobody needs to get shot over trophy theft.

        1. If ‘logic’ is based on data, then perhaps we should observe that the vast majority of gun deaths in the USA are suicides and murders, not criminals stopped in their tracks. John Lennon was shot dead 34 years ago today. That’s what guns are used for.

      1. 10 or more years ago I would have been kidding and perhaps my comment about shooting was ill-advised. However, I think England, France, Belgium and other countries, including my own, have their heads in the ground when it comes to protecting themselves and their property. The London and Paris police can’t even defend themselves in many cases nor will they go in certain neighborhoods to do their duty for fear of being shot. The idea that two cars would drive in through a building and steal trophies for metal makes little sense to me; too easy to get similar metal through other means. Sounds very planned and evidently well executed. The UK is on the hit-list big time and my own country’s constant meddling in the business of others is largely responsible for the turmoil the world is in. I simply cannot rule out a terrorist meaning behind all this. I applaud the English sense of decency and proper behavior, but that is now rather archaic thinking that others who have immigrated to the UK don’t necessarily have and follow. They know it our collective weak point. I have many good friends in the UK and my heart and blood is from Scotland, Ireland and England. I know most of its best drivers and many are my friends. One good friend and a living legend in sports cars lives in the US now because he “can’t recognize my own country any more”. I do pray that this will prove to be nothing truly sinister and apologize for getting anyone overly bothered. Some things may not be worth dying for, but bad people always know that and exploit it. As for me and my house…..

          1. Sorry for continuing above, I was reading linearly down the page..

            But the above made me think that these concerns are far more real, because my own comment didn’t need any preparation, indicating how close the debate is to conscious thought, even in this context. F1 visits some nations with radically different problems connected to guns. I wonder if thereby a positive message might be carried, where needed. Regardless any debate as to politics and F1, I think opportunistic message carrying has value, carefully handled, and one could make something of the near conquest of mortality in racing, as food for thought, even a parallel object in purpose.

    1. Oh, wonderful. Thank you for for embarrassing America by reinforcing the gun-lovin’, Middle East-hatin’ good ‘ol boy American stereotype. And we wonder why the rest of the planet hates us…

    2. Yes, those poor Middle Eastern billionaires who would not think for a second in spending a million pounds on a piece of furniture….they would be the first people that you would suspect of organising a ram raid.

      (The rest of this post was deleted as being offensive)

    3. Like that’s your real name Mr Brown – come on! No major (Ret or otherwise) would even contemplate writing in here. Good wind-up but you’re a time waster so go and annoy somebody else.

      1. Probably the bloke I saw in USAnia a couple of years back with the number plate “SEAL 1”, as if he’d personally killed Osama bin Laden utterly to DETH. Which would have been more convincing if it hadn’t been on a Saab.

    1. This is nothing compared to the stupids who stole the Roger Penske transporter with Daytona-24HR-winning and bound-for-Le Mans Lola inside in 1969.

  8. Deprived of silverware by a man driving a Mercedes. They must have thought Abu Dhabi would be the last time. Poor Red Bull. Hope they catch them.

  9. One of the posters on the James Allen’ site kindly linked to a ten minute Red Bull vid showing the trophies literally inside the entrance on the right, and the reception desk, where I would expect any ‘night officers’ not on patrol to be sitting, a few feet inside.

    Come through that entrance in a vehicle, and the ‘night officers’ seating area is what is stopping you.
    Even with guns, no chance.

  10. Certainly is odd for a security guard to have no means to secure or guard anything. Proper English I suppose? 😉

  11. The use of a Mercedes in the heist was obviously a ploy to divert attention from the real culprit. Seb wouldn’t be dumb enough to drive a Ferrari.

  12. If these trophies are replicas … ahh … replicate them again and end of story. Even the original ones, make knock offs and move on.

      1. It possible some of the race winners trophys were replicas. McLaren drivers have to give their race win trophys to the team and they are given a replica, it’s written in their contract. Red Bull probably allow the driver to keep the real one once they’ve had a rep made for the cabinet.

  13. Sounds suspiciously like there might be involvement from a certain newly arrived German Ferrari driver…..who may well have been thinking that it could be a long long time before he sees a Podium Trophy again!!….; )

  14. Baffled. Violent raid on Red Bull F1 to steal sixty essentially worthless trophies. Unless I’m wrong this isn’t the first raid of its type either.

    Carlin Motorsport GP2 last year, then of course the National Motorcycle Museum earlier this year. All trophies stolen, but tbh having seen many many motorsport trophies close up they’re mostly tacky, and the only real valuable ones never end up at the team, they’re replicas.

    Either these thieves are very very stupid, or they are stealing to order for some type of bonkers Motorsport obsessed criminal mastermind.

    Odd.

  15. I just can’t help the feeling that they knew exactly what they were going for and this was planned and executed accordingly. Dark clothing so they are not identifiable, driving a vehicle through the front entrance so they didn’t have to go through the kerfaff of having to break the door open and also saving time, a very quick smash and grab……………..it’s just odd, but why on earth would they want to go for the trophies that outside F1 are valueless? Or does someone have a grudge?

  16. Don’t know for sure, but I’d wager McLaren ‘ s trophies are not on display in a public access lobby. If they are they’ll be moved by Monday!

    Public trophy display by RB is symptomatic of a drinks marketing philosophy, always selling.

    1. If you go to google earth, you can actually walk round the McLaren factory. You’ll see that the trophy cabinets are indeed fairly close to the front door. However, the security arrangements to get to, and through, the front door are rather more complex than RB, I would imagine. Given that the building is like a Bond villains lair, I would imagine there will be sharks with lasers in the lake, and a man with big shiny teeth behind the desk.

      If you haven’t looked on Google Earth yet, I recommend it. There’s some very nice toys lying around the entrance. Why would you walk past the record breaking McLaren F1 to steal some trophies, for example. Or a range of championship winning F1 cars. Or can am racers. Or Le Mans winners. Or etc, etc, etc.

      1. Difficult to do a crash and grab on an F1 car; and I’d wager again that the cars have tracking devices embedded.

        Great info, thanks!

  17. Don’t bother calling 101, you will not get trough….., well not this year, and if you do I will cost you 10p a minute !
    Don’t bother to vist a police station either, they will tell you do call 101 !
    (Well, that’s what they told me..)
    You could try stopping a ‘Bobby’ on the street, but that’s rather unlikely too,
    unless there is some protest or Royals about…
    Kent Police budge was slashed by £50m, and another £20m cut is planned next year !
    Martin

  18. Did not Lewis recently complain to Bernie that some of the trophies for F1 wins were a bit crap? And as not as good as some he got in his kart days? My kart trophies were shite, How much are these idiots going to get?

    1. We don’t go round shooting people in England. I like the fact I don’t need to buy a handgun just because everyone else has one (they’re banned anyway). I’m not anti guns, there is a time and a place (shooting clays is great fun).

      Anyway justice will hopefully be served by the police if they catch up with the guys who did it!

  19. If the thieves had one ounce of moral fibre (which they don’t – being thieves) they would hand the 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix race winners trophy to Mark Webber.

  20. I,ve managed to get my hands on some dodgy trophys anybody interested, i,m trying to raise fifty quid to save caterham.

  21. Can they melt down those Santander logos… and the Monaco squiggles, and make better replacements? Niether conform to the FIA rules for trophies anyways.

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