Notebook from Trafalgar Square

IMG_0051The last couple of days have been pretty busy, as a result of plans having to be changed for various reasons. I was planning to drive from Austria to Belgium, spend the night there and go on to England on Tuesday morning. At one point I was even hoping to be able to get to the UK of a media preview of the new Williams F1 film, but that went out the window when I had to divert to Paris for an evening and then drive to England on Tuesday. I arrived and drove up Whitehall, where crowd barriers and plastic crash barriers were already being put into place. Trafalgar Square itself was a hub of activity. This morning I went down there to sort out accreditation and saw the last car to arrive: amusingly, this was a Sauber, seemingly the team being last at everything at the moment. Still, there was good news with the announcement of Fred Vasseur as the new team principal, in addition to roles as CEO and managing director of Sauber Motorsport. This presumably means that he is not going to be in charge of the Sauber technology unit that they are trying to develop at the moment.

Knowing Fred, I am quite sure that the last three weeks has been a time of negotiation in order to get exactly what he wants in the role, because he did not wish to find himself in a position like he had at Renault, where he had the job title but not really the freedom of action nor the same vision as the bosses. So, hopefully, this time that is all in place. I think it is a huge risk for him because of the nature of the Sauber team, which is unlike any other in the F1 Paddock. It is rooted in Switzerland in more than just name.

Sauber played a big part in my weekend in Austria, largely because I had, let’s say, a lively discussion with the owner, who did not like what I had written about the team. He made the fatal mistake (as do many blog posters) of accusing a journalist of bias. Hell hath no fury… When he asked me why I had not got his views on the subject I replied that if he came to more races it would be helpful. He asked why I did not call to which I replied that getting the telephone number of a vastly wealthy but reclusive individual, who does not even wish to be named, was not exactly the easiest thing to do. I explained to him that I had taken the only course available and spoken to his representative and taken into account what he had said, but apparently this was not good enough. So we did not really get on. When I asked him to explain what the supposed targets that Monisha Kaltenborn failed to meet, he told me to mind my own business. When he asked me to name my sources, I told him it was none of his business. He ranted, in a rather condescending fashion, about how Formula 1 people in general don’t understand business, cannot read balance sheets and P&L statements. The point he missed is that F1 teams employ clever people to do that for them and what is most important is leadership and passion. Everything else is secondary to this and believing that teams will be successful if they have the right corporate structures and that F1 is just like any other business is not a sensible approach when one looks at history and sees how much money was wasted by corporate giants Toyota and British American Tobacco, or when one looks at the mistakes that Red Bull, for example, made in F1 before eventually getting it right. There is a very long list of people who have arrived and said that F1 is the same as any other business, only to depart with their pockets emptier and their egos dented. Being rich is obviously a big advantage in life, but it doesn’t mean you know all the answers, which is a mistake that billionaires often make. What it does do is give you the chance to screw up and then buy yourself out of trouble.

The other element that the invisible team owner misses is that going into the F1 business means that one is buying into a media and entertainment business. And trying to be invisible in a media business is a bit like wandering into a minefield, wearing a blindfold and juggling balls in the air. You might get out of it without your cover (and other bits) being blown, but it’s not a great idea. We all know (if we have half a clue) who the owner is, but some of us have deferred to his wishes to remain anonymous, in order to have a good working relationship with him. However, berating journalists because they don’t write what you want to hear, is not a good way to develop working relationships and, to be honest, right now I really see no reason why I would want to keep the name secret any longer.

However, let us leave that for a while and see how things develop. Right now, I am not minded to send him a Christmas card (not that I know where to send it) and I doubt he’ll be sending me one. We will see how things develop. I wish him well, if only because I love the Sauber team and believe that they are largely good people – racing people – who understand what it takes to run an F1 team. Sauber is still in existence after 25 years (it’s written in the side of the car). It is the fourth longest-standing team which has kept the same name and been around every season behind Ferrari (1950), McLaren (1966) and Williams (1977). Most of those who come into F1 as team owners underestimate that task and concentrate on the wrong things. In some worlds having money means that people respect you, but F1 is not one of them… What earns respect is knowing how to spend it.

One man who has spent money well in recent years (even if it is not always his own money) is Vijay Mallya. He may have some difficulties with the authorities in India but in F1 terms, he has done a good job. He does suffer a little from a superiority complex (not unusual in those who have inherited great fortunes), but he has managed the team well and the results are there to see. Mind you, it’s soon going to be 10 years since he took charge so time is also an element in this. The team has recently set up a load of companies in order to prepare for a new identity in 2018. These have all been called Force One but it appears that this is just a holding name and that these companies will all change their names when the new team name is accepted by the FIA and the Formula 1 Commission. The process will begin in September when Force India will request a name change. There will then be a stage during which agreement must be reached with the F1 Commission members and then an entry can be made in October with the team’s new name.

The one thing about driving to races is that one gets time to think a lot without interruption, although there are inevitably distractions with traffic jams and so on. In a way this is also relaxing because one can take off, leave the motorways and travel a little through the regions. At one point I found myself in a monster jam and headed off on a road down because the mighty Danube, visiting scenic spots and places with strange names, such as Fisching. I was also amused to see signs to Recyclinghof, presumably because the Germans do not have a word for the concept. Once in Austria, I think the best story of the weekend was not Bottas’s lightning start, but rather the adventures of Anglo-Thai rising star Alexander Albon, who has been one of the stand-outs in Formula 2 this year, admittedly, slightly overshadowed by his long-time rival Charles Leclerc, who is doing amazing things with Prema. However, one also gets the impression that the Prema cars are a bit special, which makes it rather hard to judge who is the best of the bunch. Albon would (probably) have won a couple of races this year had the Safety Car not intervened at inopportune moments. Then, just before the F2 race in Baku, he was out training on a mountain bike, along with Britain’s other big hope for the future George Russell. Albon hit some exposed roots during a fast downhill section and went end-over-end and broke his collarbone. The injury required surgery and the insertion of a titanium plate and six screws, but desperate not to be out for too long, he started training immediately and with a little help from medical wizardry involving ultrasound. The doctors were so impressed by progress that he let him return to action in Austria, having completed only around half the normal healing time required. He qualified third in the first race and finished fifth and then was second in the second, moving himself up seventh in the championship, despite having missed two races. Heroic stuff.

During my drives I did manage to overtake the Safety Car, although I did not risk punishment because it was on the back of a truck, transporting it to Silverstone. Actually there are several Safety Cars, in case one breaks down. I also overtook half the population of Holland, which had travelled to Austria to watch Max. You had to feel sorry for them because they drive 1100km to see their hero taken out at the first corner and then drove 1100km home. It is amazing how many supporters Verstappen has and one has to ask: why him? Why do Lewis Hamilton, Sebastian Vettel or Fernando Alonso not have a similar travelling armies, as Michael Schumacher once did?

The race to get the F1 circus to Silverstone was as impressive as ever as 280 trucks rushed from circuit to circuit. When I left the Red Bull Ring at 01.43 on Monday morning there was an F1 truck leaving every minute. If you do the numbers that process could have gone on for four hours and 40 minutes, although the stragglers probably did not get out before midday Monday.

En route to Silverstone was the secret F1 promotional event in London. It was a secret because of terrorist threats, which is entirely understandable, but I did love the concept of a secret promotion. It’s a bit like the new President of France Emmanuel Macron, who was a merchant banker and a socialist, a combination that does not compute at all.

98 thoughts on “Notebook from Trafalgar Square

  1. Hi Joe, I believe that something similar happened after his dad started in F1. The win last year in Barcelona boosted his popularity and we Dutch love a good winning sports story – When we lose not so much.

    Any credibility to the story that the Sainz family was caught stirring trouble within Red Bull ranks by creating stories around Max moving to Ferrrari? Olav Mol brought it but by his own admittance he is not a journalist.

    I did notice in various publications that Ferrari did not deny the interest though.

      1. UK based? 01892 area code?

        (I realize you’re not going to answer, and you probably have a mobile rather than a landline number anyway. Just thought I’d resist the temptation to float the town name).

    1. We Germans do have a different word often used in the South of Germany on signs. It’s called ‘Wertstoffhof’.

  2. Good stuff as always. Surely the Vassuer appointment is connected to the stories about the Sauber/Honda deal potentially falling apart?

  3. ……When I asked him to explain what the supposed targets that Monisha Kaltenborn failed to meet, he told me to mind my own business. When he asked me to name my sources, I told him it was none of his business….

    Brilliant.

  4. Joe. That was one of your finer columns, in information imparted and in just plain good personal journalism. Thank you.

  5. Pretty much the entire world knows who the Sauber owner is; goodness only knows why he’s trying to keep it a secret. As you say, F1 and reclusiveness do not go well together.

    And speaking as someone who understands P&Ls and balance sheets, I can absolutely confirm that you’d rather have me doing that than designing a front wing or a clever hybrid concept.

  6. “Why do Lewis Hamilton, Sebastian Vettel or Fernando Alonso not have a similar travelling armies, as Michael Schumacher once did?”

    Someone once told me that one loves another for their faults as much as their strengths and I don’t think that the faults of today’s modern drivers are especially endearing. Lewis and Seb are childish and bratty whilst Alonso seems a bit of a back-stabber.

    However Joe, you probably have the best experience to judge your own question.

  7. Putting aside copyright infringement and something silly like a team wanting to call itself Ferraro or Claparen why does the commission care about name changes and more importantly why should they have any input?

    Surly a team calls itself what it wants and its in its own interest for this not to be stupid.

  8. “He does suffer a little from a superiority complex (not unusual in those who have inherited great fortunes).”
    So much good stuff in this piece, but this little piece of snark is a gem.
    Imagine Sauber’s secretive but egotistical boss reading that Vijay Mallya manages his team better than him…..

  9. Hi Joe

    It comes across as an ill judged move for Lewis to not be attending the display in London tonight. The media reports I have read say that every other driver will be there. Including some ex drivers like Jenson and Rosberg.

    Do you have any idea why he’s not attending? I like to think that he wouldn’t snub his home fans without good reason but if all of the other drivers are there then he’s rather conspicuous by his absence.

    Unless it’s a ruse and he’s going to pop out of a cake at some point tonight then I suspect he’ll be asked the question a lot over the weekend.

  10. Great post Joe,
    I am glad that you stood up to the head of Sauber. Too often these folk feel that they can intimidate and bully folk. I suspect that he will not stay long!
    Thanks again Joe
    Bob

  11. In the finest traditions of the Australian comedy duo Clarke & Dawe (no links allowed) can you please stop talking about American politics and stick to the subject of F1 and Sauber

  12. One of the better operating principles of good journalism, at least as I’ve known it as a reporter and editor, is that one should write what one knows to be accurate, new, and informative, in service of readers (or viewers or listeners). That is, readers usually should get priority. Thus my unease with good reporters not writing what they know to be true and interesting, which seems to be the case with identifying the new owner of Sauber.

    Whether it is a member of the Rausing family — which does many good deeds outside of motor racing through the Rausing Trust — or someone else, I would argue that the reader shouldn’t be left to guess if good reporters already know. You do need a good working relationship with the person, as you say, and you need to be able to work effectively. But surely your readers matter too.

  13. Why is the British GP scheduled during the Wimbledon fortnight? Tradition? Companies only have so much money to spend on client hosting so having both events overlap makes little sense to me.

  14. You should enter a competition versus Sauber’s owner to determine who is the most seething with rage

        1. Well, you don’t know me and you don’t know that seething is not part of my repertoire. I’m not a seether by nature. My middle name is Calm

  15. Wow, you really hate Sauber, huh? Why so? They’ve been in F1 for a quarter of a century and have been popular with fans since the 90s. They are an important part of F1’s (and sportcars’) history. Why are you seething with them? I mean you’re within your rights to hate them, forums are a place to share these opinions after all, but why so hostile to someone who’s given motorsport so much over the years?

    1. This is a blog by one of the world’s most experienced F1 journalists. It’s a bit insulting to compare his writings – which are informed by going to races and actually meeting key people in the sport (team owners, team managers, technical people, drivers etc.) – with the opinions of people who comment on forums based on what they’ve seen on the TV or read!

    2. Ahhh, a textbook example of web a commenter who has not even bothered to read the post…that or a fundamental lack of reading comprehension.

    1. On the race track they are generally last. The fact that McLarens are less reliable is the reason the team is at the back, not the speed.

  16. Thanks for another entertaining notebook Joe. I am very curious of who the Sauber-owner is, but have to repect this gentlemens agreement about anonymity, although I don’t understand why. What is even more interesting is why he bought it, did he say anything about that?

    In a situation with a cost cap and a franchise-system an F1 team could be an interesting investment, but currently with sky high costs and dwindling public and commercial interest it’s had to se why anyone wants to take on an F1 team.

    1. He doesn’t talk to the media, but he did talk to me… so I felt it was a useful compromise. Now it is less valuable but I keep my word even if I was not impressed by him in the discussion. C’est la vie. He was angry but it was controlled. I did try to explain that any criticism was designed to help him but he didn’t see it that way. That’s fine. He can pay people to tell him what he wants to hear, if that is what he wants to do. No skin off my nose, as they say.

    2. Forbes has an article that discusses possible identities. Just speculation, of course, but it does name some businesspeople and documents some interesting links.

      1. I dont know who is writing F1 for Forbes these days but it has been very unreliable. Most people in F1 know who it is

        1. > I don’t know who is writing F1 for Forbes…

          Unless they have more than one, you probably don’t want to.

  17. Joe,
    Thanks as always for the Notebook and this blog in general.
    One question: The American TV coverage of the Austrian GP included an obvious bias toward the Red Bull cars. For example, at race end when the 1st-2nd and 3rd-4th battles were truly joined, the director focused almost exclusively on the latter, even though the former was for the race win. Even the NBCsn presenters were a little flummoxed by not being able to talk much about the Bottas-Vettel duel because it wasn’t on our screens.
    I thought, however, that you had made clear in recent years that this kind of
    ‘home cooking’ was a thing of the past because F1 doesn’t re-broadcast a local production but of course utilize their own production facilities both at HQ and at the track.
    Personally, I have no bias for or against Red Bull (though I am a fan of Mr. Smiley, Danny Ricciardo); I simply wanted to see the battle for the win.
    Could a little pro Red Bull bias have crept in in Austria? Or was something else going on?

  18. Yikes ! Your encounter with Sauber’s owner ( don’t you mean CEO/President ? ) was something more than a bit contentious … wasn’t it . And the man wonders why his point isn’t coming across as he’d like . Perhaps a bit more civility on his part along with a whole lot more transparency would be in order rather than from what your words seems like a seriously condescending attitude combined with a heightened sense of superiority and arrogance along with a Trump/Putin like disdain for the very press that can in the end make or break his operation .

    Like you I’m a huge Sauber fan so none of this makes me any too optimistic for their future .. especially their ability to start garnering some serious sponsorship money ,

    FYI; re; The Macron comment . Socialism and Banking need not be mutually exclusive of one another . Look at how much CH banking subsidizes their economy from family farms to small business to health care etc : taking care of their own . Sure they may stick it to the rest of the world but the fact is CH banks do not defecate in their own backyard the way most UK and especially US banks do ( Being a Yank .. emphasis on ‘ especially ‘ )

  19. Always a pleasure to read your blog Joe. Thank you.

    PS: Have you asked the Sauber owner if he will run Honda engines next year or was he too busy for such unimportant details?

  20. Careful Jo. Money and teams are more important to F1 than individual journalists. I’m not sure what could happen in the new regime, but I’d hate to see your access reduced on the back of a fat cat crying foul.

    1. My access is not reduced. If I don’t talk to one man who doesn’t like the media it is no great loss. I still have friends in the team, and relationships going back decades.

  21. Evening Joe

    So who aren’t we naming here? Which one of the owners from H&M seems to be rather rude, or is it maybe the man from Tetra Pak? A lot of money there for sure if it is them.

    Given the connections and the nationality, you can understand why maybe Monisha left.

    Great piece, keep ’em coming.

    Paul
    Not at the race this weekend 😦

    1. Because I agreed not to name him in exchange for his his willingness to have discussions. He doesn’t thank to the media at all, but he was talking to me. I felt it was a decent arrangement , and I stick to my agreements, even if the path is not without bumps.

  22. Obviously you’re a fan of Kaltenborn and to a degree so was I but there are some odd decisions made recently that I don’t understand.

    Choosing to run year-old Ferrari engines – I thought at the time it was risky particularly given the pace of engine development and with Longbow picking up the tab surely cost was no longer an issue. Maybe it was cost but the flip-side is continuing to be uncompetitive which is probably more costly than stumping up for the latest units.

    More recently the Honda announcement. Until they become competitive why would anyone, McLaren included, want to run their engines? From what I can tell both of these decisions were directly handled by Kaltenborn.

    I read today that the Sauber-Honda deal might not be going ahead and that it was one of the key points that lead to Kaltenborn’s departure. It was mentioned that the Sauber owners are more interested in having a good engine in the car than taking a chance on Honda while they’re still struggling.

    1. I am one of many who think MK was good. The Ferrari engine choice was logical in the circumstances. It was designed to save money and to have a reliable engine and so pick up points early in the season. This happened. It was always going to be an interim year because the deal with Honda was under discussion way back in the middle of 2016. I believe also that the decision was agreed with by the Sauber technical people and the board as well, so if blame is needed it should be shared. The choice of Honda was a no brainer because it got the team to 2020 with stability and a better chance of being more competitive than with a third string Ferrari engine.

  23. Come now Joe, a mysterious secretive Swedish billionaire without the most basic understanding of what is required to be successful in F1? It all sounds a bit far-fetched… We all know that the alternative facts are that the team is SAward UBER, your startup which allows anyone with a smartphone to hail an F1 car, and that this London event was just to demonstrate the demand for on-demand F1 cars in city centres (the real reason why you knew about it all in advance).

  24. Hi Joe – What’s the inside word on McLaren’s 2018 engine situation? It’s been a bit quiet lately.

    McLaren are surely in a difficult spot. Obviously they’d love the Honda arrangement to be going better but they also find themselves in a strange position of running engines in their race cars that are direct competitors to their road cars. That is weird, and confusing, from a marketing point of view for their road car business. Renault is probably the exception but Ferrari engines would just be bizarre and even Mercedes and Honda now have road cars that directly compete with McLaren in the sports car market.

    If the Honda arrangement does end the solution might be to do what Red Bull have done with TAG/Renault and take a customer engine from whoever and rebrand it as something that doesn’t confuse or annoy their road car owners.

    1. No, they are not. They are all people with different sides to their characters. Some of these facets are not agreeable, but how many of us are without fault

  25. Funny isn’t it Joe, people have come into racing over the years all gung-ho and going to show the old hands how it should be done, but they never ask the ones who have seen it all before………folk like you. As a late dear motor racing friend of mine would say “Yes David, you know and I know what not to do having observed the same mistakes for years, but they’d never listen to the likes of us, to them we’re just the village idiots” Immortal words of Doug Waters

  26. Great to see Seb entertaining the crowd in Trafalgar Square, along with all the other drivers bar one. The one whose name we dare not mention for fear of attack from his army of fans. The guy who spends his life tweeting could not be bothered to turn up because he’s having another one of his sulks. Jensen we miss you. I hope Palmer gets a result in Silverstone.

    1. I agree that LH should have been there. It was a mistake not to be. However, we all make mistakes…

  27. “The Secret Team Owner” ……. sounds like the title of your next book. I cannot imagine that his identity has not been blown apart long ago.

  28. Joe s., Any truth to the rumors of bad blood within Mercedes? I would post links but I think it’s not allowed. Some stories say Lewis is furious that Mercedes didn’t openly come down harder on Vettel after Baku. It’s rumored Mercedes has been aggressively trying to sign Vettel and Hamilton believes that’s why. One story claims Vettel has already agreed to replace Lewis for next year and Toto was at Vettel’s birthday party just before he met with the FIA in Paris (further angering Lewis). Lewis decided not attending the London was his revenge against the team? Seems idiotic if that’s true. Another report says Lewis was considering a return to McLaren but the team is now going to stick with Honda engines which has further infuriated Hamilton with Mercedes .

      1. But there must be more to Hamilton not showing up in the Smoke than meets the eye. Surely he would have been told about it by the latest last weekend but to say that he is simply taking ‘a couple of days off’ when everyone else is getting involved is very odd.

        Alonso has previously said that there is more going on in the driver market than people realise.

        I wonder….

  29. Terrorist Threats? Are we meant to cancel everything and live at home in fear. So a promotion of F1 went ahead but with no publicity. WOW what genius came up with that one.
    Sick of this nonsense with terrorist on every corner ready and waiting to kill us in an instant and we must endure the nonsense of “security and health and safety” intruding into our everyday lives, to protect us.
    Sorry could not help that little rant. Just times make my blood boil.

    Thanks for the trip report I do enjoy them, especialy the China and Russia embassy visa trips, always makes me smile.
    Enjoy Silverstone always a great atmosphere.

  30. I thought it was Rob Walker, though the interwebs don’t necessarily agree, who expressed “to make a small fortune in motor racing you have to start with a large one”. Good luck to the Sauber owners.

    You overtook the Safety Car. My (late) Dad claims to have passed Stirling Moss; though if you’d exited Silverstone in the 50’s / 60’s you’d understand the circumstances.

    Curious; since you brought up the elections – I cannot vote in the US or UK (non-citizen / too long away respectively). Do (originally) British residents of France (as yourself?) get to vote in FR or UK or both?

    1. The original phrase goes back to the 1950s. it was in reference to investing your money on the Wall Street markets.

  31. Been watching the Trafalgar Square spectacular here in SF, must say they did a super job. I dare say Budapest will be just as good sans Big Ben. They are F1 mad in Hungary . All in all well done to the new team, astonishing what they’ve pulled off in the middle of London on the day of the State Visit by the King of Spain!

  32. Joe, great blog as always and a shame we didn’t get an audience with joe this year, although I understand the circumstances!

    Just wondered if there is any truth in the rumours of Robert Kubica testing in Hungary for Renault?

  33. “why him? Why do Lewis Hamilton, Sebastian Vettel or Fernando Alonso not have a similar travelling armies, as Michael Schumacher once did?”

    Imho opinion one could explain this the following:

    Michael Schumacher & Max Verstappen: both come from countries with very travel loving sporting fans, the Dutch even more so.
    Both were the bigggest sporting attraction their country had/has to offer in a long time in motorracing and both helped to penetrated the market on a basis that was not existant yet.
    Both have strong personalities and exceptional talent.
    So because of the newly penetrated markets, its families traveling to events to see them, not because of F1 themself but for their national hyped idol.

    Sebastian Vettel: Vettel came into F1 after MS quitted it already. The market in Germany was oversaturated and declining. Public interest was relatively low eventhough him and Alonso being the most complete driver of this time. Since he joined Ferrari interest is slowly rising again, but stil far off old times with Schumi.
    Furthermore Vettel is way more distant than Schumacher because of his lack of Social Presence, therefore he doesn’t attract entire families as well as other drivers.
    Furthermore he was perceived snobby once which is due yo him being a very intelligent guy and one can hear so when he is giving interviews. He is way smarter than any other driver around and then most journalists. This makes him appear arrogant (which to my experience he is not).

    Lewis Hamilton: Brits love racing, and not just their driver(s). So its complicated per se to get fans mobilized just for them instead of the event as such. I always enjoy talking to British F1 fans on the stands eventhough I sometimes roll my eyes when it comes to objectivity. But no matter what, they know more about F1 than any other nationality, gerneralized.
    LH however due to his appearance in Social Media just attracts a certain fanbase. Where I live he’s cheered for by women mostly. And disliked by most younger F1 supporters.
    I don’t see his potential to get ten thousands of families follow him through the world just bexause its Lewis. However he has many die hard fans no matter where he goes.
    Plus he is admired by those F1 lovers who see his exceptional talent.

    Fernando Alonso: Fernando is unfortunately Spanish. The interest in F1 as a sport is not as strong as in England, Germany,… and for some reason I can’t explain Fernando wasn’t able to penetrate the market in a way Schumi did or Verstappen does.
    I think ot might have to do with the Spanish media, his choice of teams and the economy im Spain, lately.

    Whats your take.on that Joe?

  34. Hello Joe,

    Couple of comments on Max’s following from a Dutchman and F1 fan since waaaaay before the Verstappen family came on the scene:

    – Firstly, the orange colour simply stands out. If HAM’s followers would wear bright yellow in honour of his choice of helmet livery they would also be much more visible;
    – Secondly, the Dutch have only one guy to choose from and it is the first Dutchman since 1950 who looks like he may make it big. Similar to MSC who was also Germany’s first F1 super hero. Since then the Germans may have gotten a bit spoiled and MSC may have made VET’s 4 WDC’s look easy…
    – Thirdly, the Dutch travel easily and the Dutch travel industry has an uncanny ability to jump on the latest wave and offer all sorts of incentivised packages;
    – Lastly, the “orange army” will follow just about any Dutch sport act that may win something, somewhere.

    But then again, if nothing happens they also lose interest quite quickly. Unlike the hardcore British fans I meet in various places of the world who stick to their team or driver (or football club, or, or) regardless of results. I like that.

    My views entirely…

  35. What are your thoughts on Red Bull for the remainder of the season, bearing in mind Ricciardo only finished 10 seconds behind a Merc and Ferrari over a whole GP length?

    I know we are only nearing half season, but the gap between Verstappen and Ricciardo is about the same as Ricciardo and Vettel. If Kimi can be nearly two wins behind in 2007 and win the WDC, surely Red Bull would not be ruling out Ricciardos chances yet?

    It may not be a popular for the Verstappens, but what will assist is a clearly defined No.1 and No.2 driver.

      1. Ok, so putting £5 on Riccardo during the Azerbaijan red flag at 25/1 and then putting the £125 winnings on Ricciardo to win the WDC at 440/1 is, as we put it, pissing in the wind?

  36. The first year F2 drivers do seem to be showing the ‘old hands’ the way. Would you like to see a limit on the number of seasons a driver can participate? Will Prema step up to F1 (given the Stroll ownership)?

    Giorgio Pantano and Jolyon Palmer winning their GP2 titles after multiple campaigns does seem to have reduced its usefulness for them. At least Palmer is in F1, unlike Davide Valsechi which is a shame however much I enjoy his enthusiastic commentary.

    Re. Sauber, interesting to read Frederic Vasseur’s comments about his say on driver choice and future engine strategy.

    1. Davide Valsecchi has got a new hobby: he occasionally competes in the FIA Autocross European Championship. And Vasseur said the Honda engine is “scary”………

  37. Must be useful having Bernd Pischetsrieder and Ola Källenius on the board at Tetra Laval – might that have an impact on the future direction of the team?

  38. Joe, not that you’ll probably care either way, but my respect for you has just increased having read your fair minded assessment of Mallya’s stewardship of Force India.

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