Who is where in the F1 pecking order?

The question that everyone wants to know the answer to at the moment is who is going to be on top of the timesheets at the end of the qualifying in Melbourne – and who is going to win the race?

Over the years I have made the mistake of making predictions, and seen many others make the same mistake. Testing gives an impression, but one never really knows whether it is the right impression, because one does not know what the different teams are up to. They have more of a chance to assess who is where because they have data available and lots of people who can analyse this information.

In addition to this, in 2011 we have the additional problem of the new tyres, which adds an important new variable to what was already a very complicated task. One does not know, for example, if there is any sandbagging going on; or any performance-enhancing come to that. There is a big difference now between hard and soft tyres with Pirelli having agreed to make tyres that will add to the show rather than the bulletproof black round rubber things that Bridgestone were using at the end of last year. The other point that has to be made is that most of the teams will have new aerodynamic kits for the first race. Development never stops so what is possibly true today may not be true tomorrow. Add to that the important point that some teams are ahead of others in their work, because they have had fewer problems and the point that all testing thus far has been in cool conditions and some cars will work better on their tyres in warmer conditions and you can see that this is a problem which is best left to sort itself out… as it assuredly will.

Impressions are all that can be drawn from the testing to date. I have been really impressed thus far by the amount of running that some of the teams have been doing with new cars. One expects a few problems out of the box but there are teams that have been running 100 laps a day from the start of testing. Given the complexity of the machines this is incredible. Changes to the technical regulations usually increase gaps between the teams, while stability draws them closer together, so we should expect there to be some bigger gaps this year.

The regulatory restrictions that exist these days mean that the differences between the cars are much less pronounced that previously. Engines are fairly well matched and balanced, aero and CFD time is controlled, spending is curtailed and teams are not allowed to build things out of wildly expensive unobtainium because it is two percent stiffer than titanium… These are still fabulously exotic pieces of machinery but they are not as exotic as they could be. That is a good thing because one needs to have a sustainable level of budget to ensure that there is a grid full of cars.

Most people seem to think that Red Bull has not lost the advantage seen at the end of last year and that these are still the cars to watch, although Ferrari appears to have toughened up its challenge. Who is ahead? It may depend on the nature of each individual circuit. It may not. Thus far at least, one gets the impression that McLaren and Mercedes are not quite on the pace. McLaren missed the first test to get some additional aerodynamic development time and that means that there is some on-track catching up to do, although it is dangerous thing to write off a team of such calibre just yet.

Mercedes does not seem to be on the pace but there is clearly a belief that there are new parts in the system that will improve the speed of the cars. Renault seems to have made technical progress but losing Robert Kubica is going to hurt and one has to look at budgets as well because cars with spaces on the bodywork or in-house deals never do as well as those with big corporations writ large on the side… particularly when we get two-thirds of the way into the season.

In the midfield there seems to have been (logical) progress from Sauber, Williams and Scuderia Toro Rosso, but will this be progress enough to be challenging up front? Force India was late getting the new car out and so is not quite there at the moment. Team Lotus has made the expected leap forward that would logically come from using Renault engines and a Red Bull gearbox, but one must not forget that this is a completely new team and it takes time develop the same levels of efficiency as the big established operations. Hence there have been some reliability problems thus far. It is to be expected. Virgin has a better car but the impression is that it has not jumped as far up the order as Lotus and Hispania remains a mystery for now. The car looks nice from the pictures released to date but they are a long way behind in terms of knowledge.

What we do know is that with the Pirelli tyres as they are now, races are going to be won and lost thanks to a driver’s ability to make his tyres last a little longer than the opposition. The drop off in performance when it comes is more pronounced than previously which means that race will be won and lost as a result.

An interesting seson ahead…

50 thoughts on “Who is where in the F1 pecking order?

  1. Joe,

    Any insight on pitstops? Do you expect more pitstops this year or will drivers be just a bit more carefull to limit the number of pitstops.

    1. Franc,

      Logically if the tyres do not last as long as the old Blidgestones used to… then there will be more pit stops

  2. Refreshing honesty Joe admitting that nobody really knows what’s going on!

    The only conclusion I can glean is that Ferrari seem pretty quick and reliable with a standard-looking car with no tricks that a bystander can spot. I bet that is a worry for Red Bull.

    Although a fan and therefore biased, I love the Williams gearbox solution. Impressive engineering like that should be the signature of F1.

    Considering when Mercedes stopped development of their ’10 car, the speed out of the box of the ’11 car can’t fail to be upsetting for them. I know most teams have a package for the final test, but one thing we can say is that when a team designs a monster of a a car, it is quick straight away. Look at the Brawn BGP001…

  3. “Mercedes does not seem to be on the pace but there is clearly a belief that there are new parts in the system that will improve the speed of the cars”

    If they use that one much longer they’ll have to make it thier by-line.

  4. Joe,
    I agree in the main with your summary of the current pecking order. I would only say that I believe Williams are ahead of Mercedes and possibly McLaren.
    Considering the rookie status of Maldonado he looked quite quick and was without KERS. Barrichello is at least 0.5/sec lap quicker at the moment so I think Williams are a dark horse. The car is innovative and still has room for development and already has a big aero upgrade for the first race waiting in the wings.. I think they are a podium challenger with a real possibility of a win at somewhere like Montreal,Singapore or Monaco.
    I think their long term aero mistakes have been largely banished after listening to Barrichello last year and acting on his feedback.

  5. Which in Mclaren looks a slightly more positive season ahead for Jenson who consistently made his tyres last longer last year as he did in previous years whereas Lewis would often ruin his Bridgestones quicker than most on the grid. Fingers crossed that Lewis makes fewer unforced errors this year as opposed to last when he shot himself in the foot on 2 or 3 crucial occasions. I think the champ this year will go down to the driver who makes the fewest mistakes as the cars seem pretty well matched, unlike 2 yrs ago when Brawn stole the march with their double diffuser and last year when Red Bull had some pretty marginally interpretations of flexible parts

  6. There doesn’t seem to be any reason why the prevailing teams from last year won’t continue to dominate, none of the mid ranking teams have had a major budget increase, so it’s likely that the 2011 champs will be Red Bull, Ferrari or McLaren (in that order of likelyhood). The only team with the potential to join the party are Mercedes but it seems they have problems. It could still be a great season though.

    I wonder if the cancellation of the Bahrain GP will benefit the teams who launched their cars late? It does mitigate the risk involved in the strategy of having more design time and less track time before the first race.

  7. I think the tyres will be a huge factor this year. Last year we saw the Ferrari and the McLaren (in the hands of Button) were able to make tyres last. The Red Bulls were fairly harsh on their tyres, likewise Hamiltons preference for oversteer/a pointy car chews tyres. Obviously a lot can change in the next month, but at present I think Alonso is looking good, and although the RBR cars might get him for raw pace over the course of a race distance he has the edge.

  8. Joe,

    Just a thought after the deleayed start to the new season, this now means that the Team Lotus vs (Lotus) Renault will take place before the start of the season, so potentially things could be sorted before rubber is layed around the lake of Albert Park.

    PJ

  9. I am really looking forward to the new season with the new tyres, wings and KERS etc (But I look forward to every new season anyway !)

    Managing the tyres was a skill that was lost and now must be found again – but when someone wins by “driving to the tyres” to the detriment of another who is “faster” there must not be crtiticism for this approach.

    I think this year we are going to see which drivers have brains as well as balls.

    If the drop off in performance is as marked as you say, and that getting one or two additional quick laps out of a set, buring a set of softs to get higher up the grid might be a waste of time.

    Also if the difference in speed between the soft and hard is big, the midfield team may force the big boys to go to the softer tyre earleir in qually, meaning that in the race they have to put on a used set, making tyre management even more important…….excellent.

    Maybe we can get back to the days when someone drives like Alain Prost to win a GP from further back on the grid….Mexico 1990 for example ?

  10. Joe, what are your thoughts on the situation at Hispania? Even if they do actually turn up with a car they’re risking being so far behind that they’ll simply fall foul of the 107% rule each week. I’ve always liked the underdogs such as Minardi, Larrouse etc but i’m losing the will to live with these guys! I’m new to your blog and i’m loving your honest and frequently hilarious writings on our favourite sport. Thanks:)

    1. The GreatCornholio

      How can anyone possibly have a view on the 107 percent rules, when we have not even seen the car? It might be a Red Bull beater for all we know (I doubt it, but you never know).

  11. I am interested by the view that the driver that can manage his tyres slightly better will win out.

    In reality I think it will once again be a fight to stop first to leapfrong the man in front without getting caught in traffic because a car on fresh tyres will be so much quicker for that extra lap.

    Only the drivers and cars that can make one stop less will be better off, but then they will be spending a long time on poor tyres.

    I feel that the top teams will all have similar strategies, with pehaps some midfield teams starting on the harder compound mixing things up.

  12. I think this could be an awful season for Hamilton. Usually if the McLaren is a bit off the pace then Lewis is one of those drivers who can do well, and exceed expectations, like when he qualified in 5th in Budapest. However, if he treats his tyres like he did at Brasil last year, and burns through them on his first few laps then he could have a lot of difficulties. Alonso for his 3rd title is my early prediction.

  13. RBR are sandbagging. I have never seen MW so “cat that got the cream” before the start of a season. SV on the other hand has a reason to smile, but all I can say is I’d like to play cards with him. Who had the fastest single diffuser car in 2009? And AN seems to have refined the pull-rod suspension even further. Why did they go pull-rod when most others were push-rod? IMO, if AN did it, then they had a very good reason.

    McLaren have been disappointing, and it’s no fun plying catch-up. My big surprise is Toro Rosso. They seem to have come up with a good car, but will likely fade due to budget.

  14. There’s too much messing with things for the good of “the show” if you ask me… With such a currently highly talented group of drivers, communication at the point of being an art form, and all the sophisticated technical skills at the teams’ disposal, couldn’t they just let them race? I can’t see what of kers, movable rear wings, and unsuitably soft wearing tyres are going to do to improve it. We all know that overtaking will come back if you remove most of the aero. It’s that simple. This is just showbiz that’s designed to complicate things, confuse all of us, and feed the pundits. F1 is made for TV these days, not for racing.

  15. For tyre preservation qualities the obvious driver to back is Button. However from my own observations the McLaren does not look good. As you say Joe one should not write off a team of their calibre this early, but that car looks a bit too radical to me….

    IB

  16. Sound predictions, Joe.

    Alonso vs. Vettel for the title with whoever manages to organise their teams best as the deciding factor, a win or two for Lewis and Jenson, a possible farewell victory for Schumi at somewhere odd like Hungary and Heidfeld most likely to get on the podium before Valencia.

    I’ll cook some popcorn, let’s get on with it shall we?

  17. Yes very interesting season ahead. With the cancellation of Bahrain, Melbourne will once again be the first race on the calander so there will be a lot of excitement in the paddock I suspect. What I time to attend my first F1 race!

    On that note Joe, any advice for a first-time attendee? Unfortunately I was late to buy tickets so I only have general admission, but some general advice would be appreciated. Should I bring a radio for example so I can get some commentary while roaming the race tracks? Best place to watch from? Anywhere to go interesting before/after qualifying and the race?

    1. Bernard,

      Sadly, I don’t get to go out much around these race tracks and I am no expert. I suggest trying some fan forums.

  18. Joe,
    I am not sure that McLaren is off the pace, they seem to be close to the pace, but lack reliability to get what they really need from the car. The important question therefore is can they get the reliability without track time and cure the issues before the first race.

    The second question is can they refine the radical design elements to gain an advantage, or like the F Duct last year will the benefit not be enough to overcome the other weaknesses in the design.

    If they can pull of both in short order then it comes down to drivers managing tires. I would say Button therefore has to start with an advantage over Hamilton. Hardly anyone is discussing that given the rate of tire wear and the number of changes required that timing of your stops, IE strategy, will be massively important this year. And McLaren was not world class on strategy last year. Pit stop strategy could make a bigger difference than some of the aero tweaks this year. It seemed at times like Button was making calls on the fly better than the team was doing with Hamilton.

  19. Thank you Joe, so much because i thought for a minute your headline was about politics and business again!

    Since i’m a salesman who likes to programme, i might just get away with linking this:

    http://dilbert.com/fast/2011-02-20/

    With no race imminent, i started wishing they’d do 5 lap sprint races at Barcelona. Do i have a rash, or what?

    – j

  20. Re: Virgin Racing.

    I’m on a cartoon riff today, but sadly the wonderful website for Derivatives Strategy Magazine, which was a good decade ahead of the current crisis, works once in a blue moon. So I’ll describe:

    Block 1: Wall to wall computers, bespectacled geeks (quants) staring at equations on screens yelling “Eureka!”.

    Block 2: Trading floor. All characters tearing their hair out.

    (as best i can remember, but the point ought to be plain)

    Oooh, the site almost worked just now, but it looks like it’s on someone’s private home server. If you can, be patient. They never talked down to anyone. I still think that mag was scuppered because it properly took the mickey out of the game the big boys were playing. (this was before the massive banking merger wave) If so, that’s the kind of nonsense my own gig is about preventing.

    – j

  21. Joe,

    Speaking of big names sponsors, and their effect on the cars, I have question about Williams. When funded properly, and with a good engine, Williams were a fantastic team. Its been said that dealing with Frank Williams and Patrick Head has been difficult because of their iron grip, which BMW learned about, but that surely couldn’t stop sponsors with no interest in running the team. So, my question is, why aren’t their sponsors (relatively) clawing to jump on board with Williams. Given reasonable cash Williams are virtually guaranteed to be a fixture on the podium. Why isn’t there a Microsoft Williams, or a Siemens Williams, etc?

    Shawn

  22. Can this years season match the excitment of last year?

    Back then everyone was talking about how boring Bahrain was… now we have to wait until the last sunday this coming March for the grand prix to start.

    It’s all set to be a cracking season as everybody has a point to prove, from driver to driver, team to team and a new plc listing against two new Lotus!?
    (What would Mr Chapman be thinking now?)

    Weber vs Vettel will be interesting to observe as will Jenson and Lewis. Will Michael finally make his resurgence in the Mercedes? He has a lot to prove as has Phillipe in the Ferrari, and never under estimate Reubens; he has a very quick car and this may be his swansong.

    Can’t wait!

  23. Joe, I realise it’s almost impossible to forecast where the teams are at the moment. I’ll put my neck on the line by predicting a few thoughts ahead of the season opener. I doubt many people will go back to look at what was said prior to last year for instance.
    Pecking order I would think is that Red Bull and Ferrari will still be the leading contenders. I expect that Massa will be stronger this year.
    If McLaren can sort out their problems, I would expect they will also be at the front end.
    Who next? Good question! Mercedes, Renault and possibly Williams, Sauber and even Toro Rosso. Force India – the jury is out on them at the moment. Of the new teams I expect Lotus to have made good progress with Virgin playing catch up. HRT – we’ll see where they are as the season unfolds. I expect they will be faster but able to catch Virgin?
    Revelations of the season? If tyres are such a factor then I see Alonso and Button doing well but my prediction regarding the driver who will surprise is Barrichello in the Williams (shame they don’t have Hulkenberg in the other car).
    In for a penny in for a pound as they say….

  24. Too early to tell for McLaren, indeed. I recall Red Bull skipping the first testing session, and being ragged by reliability issues during the pre-season testings they ran. If history repeats itself, that bodes well for McLaren who mirrored RB’s testing feats of last year thus far.

  25. There are not that many empty spaces on LRGP car. I’d rather say they are quite succesfull with attracting sponsors…

    so thinks Nick Heidfeld in recent F1.com Q&A

  26. Very good post, Joe,I saw my 1st motor race when I was 10yrs old, Im now 72,& I think I can safely paraphrase J. Brabham-“when the flag drops, the bullshit stops.”

  27. Sure we may see more overtaking, but seeing a car running at normal f1 pace overtake another car running at gp2 pace isn’t going to bring much excitement is it?

  28. I thought that Ferrari, especially Massa was trying hard in contrast Mclaren is just taking it easy. even some comments on this blog (AuraF1) saying that Ferrari doing fast times just for publicity

  29. I’ve kept a close eye on all the testing and found it impossible to glean anything from it. Red Bull looked to have been sandbagging most of the tests and interestingly most days the McLaren and Red Bull were right next to each other on fastest lap times, seemingly happy to be midfield. Seems wierd that everyone has already started to write off the Renault given that 3 weeks ago it was a potential championship winner.

    The other factor with the testing has been the low track temps. Pirelli are constantly saying how they do not react the same at normally expected track temps hence they were looking forward to Bahrain as that would have been a real show of how cars were reacting to the tyres in optimal circumstances.

    This means that the teams are going to go to Oz having got their cars running well on cold tracks only to go into a series of races at hot tracks which means that Friday testing in Oz will be very busy and I imagine that at least one team who thought they were doing well will fall foul of not being able to get their setup/strategy right in Oz.

    I think the biggest question this season will be team orders. Now they’re legal who is going to be the first team to use them and upset one of their drivers?

  30. Martin,

    maybe the question is a combination of what is the minimum points gap to consider team orders, relative track strength between team drivers and gap ahead of or behind other teams. No doubt other factors will play too. If you know your car isn’t going to be a blinder at a specific circuit, then you might forget driver orders, but if you will be fast, then go for it, and extend the advantage. I suppose too that orders might be critical at the same track where you are slow, if it’s a close call to the immediate rival team or teams. My ideas are obviously extremely rough, but you can bet your bottom dollar there’s some energy going into programming more realistic rules and optimizations than i could dream up.

    So it’s a moveable feast. I imagine there can be a lot learned about general team / track confidence from this, which will make watching interesting too.

    Also, it’s a bit of a game of chicken, because the benefits – under the right circumstances – would or should be significant, but weighed against inevitable booing from fans, and opprobium even from just your general F1 lover.

    If any of my hypotheticals actually come into play, i would suggest also that driving consistency will be at a premium this year. Who’d drop orders to favor a driver who could DNF the race? Even more interesting, when you consider how MS likes to learn a car by pushing it past sensible limits, or did at one time.

    If, God bless all who live under the sun, we have flyaway races this year. There’s a lot of tonnage, hardware, and men, sailing now. Well, a lot if measured by our fleet, modest by America’s, but enough to make me sit down quietly. Hopefully, getting people sitting down quietly will be the extent of the mission. Time to regain some trust.

    – john

  31. David Hodge,

    just for fun, because i think it’s banned in F1, how about FeNi36?

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Invar

    Sorry it’s not Unobtanium, i seem to have mislaid my ingot of that, dammit, but it does the business when you’re doing serious work, like space exploration. It’s about as expensive as Unobtanium, within a few significant digits 🙂

    – j

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