On the F1 engines of 2013

My fellow blogger James Allen has written about the idea of cars running only on electric power in the pitlane in the future. I am grateful to him for reminding me because I heard about the idea in Australia and then completely forgot to write about it! It is a great idea because while there is going to be plenty of noise out on the race track, the cars will be nice and quiet in the pitlane, a neat way of showing the world exactly what is possible with kinetic energy recovery systems, which uses the energy of motion to create electrical power, which can then be used to make an engine more powerful, or to give it extra punch at critical moments. We have yet to discover much about the new engines that will appear in 2013 but there signs are that these are going to be fascinating, and rather more interesting than the frozen lumps we have today. The key point is that while these may be more expensive, the technology that they will be developing is useful for the motor industry. There is nothing like competition to move the product forwards so F1 can have a little more technical relevance for the industry, in addition to continuing to provide global marketing value. In theory, at least, this means that it is more likely to attract car manufacturers than it does at the moment. The current lot may whinge about the need to invest more, but they have been gaining a great deal of value for a long time, based on very reasonable levels of investment. The reason that others have not joined in is that they are starting at a disadvantage and with the rules as they are there is no incentive to develop an engine which will become frozen at a certain point (it is cheaper to do what Infiniti has done and buy space on a car) and there is no technical value at all under the current rules.

The thing that will be fascinating is what kind of systems will appear. The signs are that in an effort to gain an advantage and better efficiency the engine designers will use direct injection systems, which will improve the volumetric efficiency of engines. In addition it is likely that the new engines will be supercharged and turbocharged. Superchargers compress air which is then forced into the engine, providing more oxygen than would normally be available. This creates more power, but also uses more fuel because the supercharger is traditionally powered by a belt or gear connected to the crankshaft of the engine, which reduces the power of the engine. Thus an engine might produce 500 hp without a supercharger and 700 hp with such a unit, but this is not efficient as an additional 100 will have been wasted powering the compressor. Thus if there is an electric supercharger the engine could produce 800 hp using the same amount of fuel.

Turbocharging is when the exhaust gases from an engine drive a turbine, and the power produced helps to drive the engine faster. Back in the 1980s Lancia developed engines for the Delta S4, which used belt-driven superchargers and exhaust-driven turbochargers, which used different valves to provide boost from the supercharger at low speeds and additional top-end power from the turbocharger, which helped to eradicate the problem of turbo lag when an engine is running at low revs. Using these turbines to create electricity which can then be used to provide additional power when it is needed is a much more efficient way of working an engine. Harvesting the energy from exhaust gases can be done with various other turbo-compounding systems, which have been developed since the 1940s, beginning with Napier & Sons prototype Nomad engine, which featured axial multi-stage turbines and compressors that powered a second propeller, while also providing jet-like boost.

With more efficient KERS and other energy capturing systems possible, the new engine regulations should provide a lot of technological options.

56 thoughts on “On the F1 engines of 2013

  1. The KERS only pit lane was first mentioned by a user on the BBC F1 forum website back in early Feb’ I think.

    Many people scoffed at the idea, but the user on that site is well connected, he often drops hints weeks or months before the likes of Autosport chip in.

    I always look forward to new rules and regulations, as it’s the essence of F1, to challenge, to progress, to adapt and to raise the bar.

    I like the idea of compound turbo charging too.

    I hope the 2013 aero’ regs’ are radical also.

  2. Interesting…..

    Maybe the noise might not be too bad after all if they going to use some form of supercharger…….

    Joe, slightly off topic, did you ever get to hear the Ferrari Comprex system in 1981….from what I have read it was supposed to have sounded fantastic…..or have I aged you unduly, for which of course I apologise !!

  3. Personally, I can’t see how F1 fans could not be excited about this. 1) lots of power… 2) new technology… what’s to whine about? Noise? Come on, there are plenty of inline fours that sound pretty awesome, and any F1 engine is going to sound pretty amazing.

  4. Electric power in the pitlane is already part of the Le Mans regulations – in order for a car to be classified as a hybrid, it must be able to drive down the entire length of the pitlane only using batteries/flywheel power

  5. Makes perfect sense, when doing low revs, low speed go for electric. Just like city drive mode for road hybrids.

    I certainly expect this to get a bit more exiting for the engineers, with a lot of new development roads to explore before they get to a certain level.

  6. Excellent article, I’ve been looking eagerly into this matter for quite some time. Despite some disfavor from certain people to adopt the new regulations, I guess they will become true nevertheless, because it’s an already approved path.
    A while ago I’ve read here about simulation of the sound of the new engines, and I hope more will come soon.
    Am I correct in thinking (long term) that these 1.6 turbo engines will remain that way for a long time, in terms of liters, and only the surrounding systems will change / improve ? For example, introducing more powerful KERS, more efficient ways of recovering otherwise-wasted energy, stuff like that ?

  7. I think the new engines may make things more interesting, but I’m not sure why they seem to be intent on capping power at around 800bhp, and limiting the cylinder count to 4.

    I don’t see any reason why teams shouldn’t be allowed to produce engines with the same capacity, but different configurations (like the small capacity turbo V6s of the 1980s), and power limited to 1000bhp, thus distancing F1 from the lower formulae.

    JP

  8. If I understand correctly, these new engine regulations will allow more technical freedoms than are available with the current regs. But this leads to a question whether again manufacturers will get into an arms race to develop these new engines and their ancillary systems. Will the FIA be forced to freeze the development of these new engines in the future again? Or maybe these develoment expenses can be covered by some sort of a resource restriction agreement.

    What can you tell us about it, Joe?

  9. What if the electrical systems has been damaged or can not used (just like Red Bull not being able to use KERS right now althought they have it on the car), what will be the means of transport of a car during the pit stops? There are many details to be worked out for that rule, but generally it will be very interesting.

  10. nice piece, thou I think that an electric compressor still would use more fuel. Not as much as a conventional one, far less, but the electricity has to be generated, which increases the fuelconsumption.

    Using the turbo as a generator is a smart idea, but it would not be KERS as intended, I think. However a turbo on it’s own it probably the ultimate energie recovery unit on it’s own.

    If the pitlane rides would become electrified, that might be a tad dangerous as the pit noises would far exceed the noise the car makes..who would hear the car coming??

  11. Joe,

    Thanks for that info – was about to send you a link to James’ website!

    Any idea if the KERS energy will still be controlled by a driver operated button or if it will be fed continuously into the drivetrain round the whole lap?

  12. An interesting post, thanks; delighted to see Napier mentioned – I have always been an admirer of Napier – a sort of English Lancia in some ways (I mean REAL Lancia of course not those rebadged Chryslers which should not carry the great name at all).

    And apart from the incredible Nomad Napier built the wonderful Sabre engine (yes I know it was temperamental – perhaps Napier was the English Bugatti?)

  13. The KERS-powered superchargers are a nice idea, as is having some jet-like exhaust/diffuser turbo system. I can just see it… Bright yellow and grey paint job, tilting suspension, no-loss-of-suction diffuser, introducing the Dyson F1 car! Awsome, can’t wait.

  14. Joe – I have to give you a lot of credit for being so open-minded and enthusisatic about the apparently inevitable changes coming to F1. I became an F1 fan in the late 70’s and I always considered the 3-litre V10 engine era (circa 1997 – 2003) to be the pinnacle of F1 from a technology, aesthetic, and sensory standpoint. To me, in an effort to appease the regulatory and environmental pressures, it’s all been downhill from there. I have been very scornful of the latest era of rules which seemed to dumb down the sport in an effort for mass appeal and higher TV ratings, which of course are necessary for its survival. KERS and DRS seems terribly artificial and leaves me cold, and the thought of an all-electric future seems almost inconceivable. I expected someone with your history in the sport to have similar views to mine, but your willingness to embrace the new order and be open-minded about the future are starting to rub off on me. I am now curious to see where this path takes us, but I will certainly miss the sound of those V10s echoing around Spa and Imola. Here’s to the Future !!!

  15. “….the technology that they will be developing is useful for the motor industry.”

    are you sure that the technology developed will be useful outside F1. Superchargers and Turbochargers are commonly used and developed in roadcars and development is ongoing. I don’t see where F1 will help them and if it has ever managed to do so.
    The same applies to hybrid cars being pioneered on road rather than competition. Besides the conditions at which batteries are used in F1 are absolutely impossible in commercial use and batteries are the main challenge of electric energy usage.

    I’m happy engine development will restart but I think it will create bigger gaps between teams and it will damage the quality of the racing we are witnessing because don’t get mistaken if the teams are so close now it is a great deal thanks to engine freeze and tyre companies not working closer to bigger teams.

    One question to finish, turbochargers will rob exhaust gas from its high flow energy. Will that make blown diffusers unefficient ?

  16. Given that you know pretty much everything about motrosport history, why don’t you launch a SawardPedia. It will be your legacy to motorsport 😉

  17. I can’t imagine the FIA are going to leave the regulations open enough for multiple options to be available. This does not fit in with the cost cutting ethos of F1 now. It would be very odd to go from the most restricted engines ever to allowing teams the option of all sorts of turbochargers and superchargers.

  18. You bring up some interesting points… I love the idea of a supercharger run directly from a form of KERS without hitting the engine directly. Just lets get rid of the showy stuff and let the driver use it whenever they like instead of this artificial stuff they have now with KERS and DRS.

  19. I think it’s fantastic news that they’re open to different possibilities. I just hope it’s not prescribed like it is now but to different restrictions.

    In fact when KERS was first discussed I thought the idea of a “KERS-charger” would be a good route to go (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A49638522). I should have patented the idea! 🙂

  20. Great comments. I 100% agree.

    What does Luca think about the frozen lumps ? Ferrari can’t do what Lancia did in the past with the Lancia ECV (group S) ?

    For hybrid Le Mans Prototypes (hy-LMP) it was decided last year that it will have to stop its petrol engine in the pitlane. Finally the ACO decided not to do so during a race because it was too dangerous to have cars running without noise in the stands. But it should perform such a run during scrutining.

    Last year, a proposal by Citroën (?) was made for hybrid WRC cars to rely on electric power between rally stages. It was not retained by the Todt FiA.

    I hope that the FiA will not change its mind about the new 1.6 l – 4 cylinders “turbo-KERS” F-1 formula…

  21. This all gets me to thinking that, eventually, Formula1 cars will be Nuclear powered.

    But until that point, they’ll be spending good money on the battery and containment systems which are really the (stated) reason we don’t have more efficient consumer vehicles on the market today. The more they spend on tenths of a second, the farther we can go on a charge. I also think that maybe in the distant future (barring the emergence of cold fusion) compressed natural gas powered cars would be practical, considering the performance gains offered by such an exotic substance,(lol). I’ve seen some pretty impressive performance from CNG already.

    This will all happen sometime after we ween ourselves of the petrol, hopefully. Some day. In the far future.

  22. I think engine development is certainly the way forward for F1. At the very least F1 needs to remain “relevant” to road car technology, and if it can legitimately improve road cars then that’s good news for everyone. At the moment whenever mentions F1’s relevance to road cars (eg. KERS), I just shrug my shoulders.

    The teams might complain about the cost of the new engine technology, but if it’s actually road-relevant then I imagine car manufacturers who benefit from it would offset the cost.

    Unfortunately one downside to all this will inevitably be much poorer engine reliability, back like it was in the past. Although even if this does wreck some drivers’ races, I suppose the cream always rises to the top, as they say…

    I hope the smaller teams aren’t left out in the cold when it comes to properly working with and developing the new engines. Maybe some of them might even surprise a few people and score some points – made easier if the top teams’ engines are a little unreliable.

    I think the recent talk from people worried about the sound of the new engines is a bit strange. Are there any engines in motorsport that really sound “bad”?

    In F1, I’d like to hear some more variation in the engine sounds. For years we’ve heard the engines from the onboard cameras and they’ve all sounded pretty much the same. Only this year I’ve noticed the Lotus Renault engines sounding different to the others, thanks to their unusual exhausts.

    I also think a move to make the engines quieter is a good one. And not just in the pitlane, but also the track. What good is it if the engines sound great at the track, but they’re so loud you’ve got to cover your ears whenever one goes past? It kind of defeats the purpose, doesn’t it? And nobody watching races on TV cares about how loud they are. It’s a bit Spinal Tap. My engine goes all the way to 11.

    Appreciate the nod to James Allen. I’ve often wondered how closely the various popular F1 journos/bloggers work together, especially the writers and photographers who travel to every race. I imagine there’s some rivalry there. Hopefully it’s all friendly!

    Thanks Joe.

    – ozz

  23. I’m looking forward to the 2013 engine regs as an opportunity to make F1 relevant to road cars again. The Delta S4 was a fearsome beast – I didn’t know about the combined super/turbo charger arrangement, which was also introduced on a VW Polo reasonably recently.

    A new development should save some of that plumbing: Rotrex, who supply superchargers for the Koenigsegg, are developing a variable speed supercharger using a CVT similar to one found in the original Flybrid KERS. It would be more efficient to cut out the conversion to electricity and use a flywheel KERS to store mechanical energy as per Flybrid and Williams systems (hope Williams get their season going again soon).

    However, the new technology will no doubt be dismissed (by those that don’t understand it) as engineers’ pencil sharpening exercises.

  24. Personally I think it will be great for the sport and I cannot wait to see it done. People who complain about the lack of noise…including Bernie…really must be clutching at straws – sure the noise of F1 is important but these same people (Montezemolo, Bernie) wre on the front line for the turbos of the 80’s and no-one sat there complaining about the noise then, did they! Alternatively, go and listen to the little turbo engines on this years WRC cars, which will of course be a step down from F1 engines, and they sound great. Sure, we wont have the scream so much any more, more of a grunt, but as with people complaining about new wings being ugly or whatever, they will quickly get over it when they see a good race.

    The birth of the internet is both a great and a terrible thing for sport. It makes it more accessible, and it does give the fans a voice which before they never had, but it also means that there are so many hundreds of armchair critics out there (myself included of course!) who complain about everything they can (hopefully not myself included there) and creates an atmosphere that takes away from the amazing spectacle that a full grid of F1 cars really is, and will be with more engines. They had to change at some point, even if only to liven things up a bit…and they are changing in a good direction in my opinion (as an armchair expert.)

  25. All good stuff.
    The only problem with it is this 4cly engine business.
    Perleeese Mr Todt can we have a 2ltr v6.

  26. I have to say that Electric power in the pit lane would be an absolute hoot.

    These new engine regs have the makings of some great technology and should have been done a long time ago. Afterall, where is the sense in freezing the specs of the engines and letting everything else rip. With Compounding being allowed, we are really going back to the years of the turbos, as Cosworth had got some pretty exotic compounding coming along for their great V6 turbo. Maybe their new one will be even better.

    On an amusing note, the Napier Nomad was a diesel, so maybe Audi and Peugeot would be interested. Then again!

  27. The “electric only” pit lane produces some interesting thoughts, quite apart from the supposed danger of silent cars, which wont happen anyway even if engines are stopped, because electric motors are not silent and there is a klaxon which blows on the approach of every car in the pit lane, maybe it will have to be blown on their departure as well. If engines are stopped this means starters on the cars and maybe proper clutches, though it makes sense to start the engine in gear anyway. (As one does when the stupid plastic clip on the end of your clutch cable in your Xantia has broken, still it’s quite an easy car to drive without a clutch).

    The new specs give a real opportunity for innovation in design both in the engine and in the electrical collection, conversion, storage etc.

    It seems to have been assumed that the Williams flywheel energy storage system will not be allowed, though I rather hope it is, since it presents a series of different engineering problems and opportunities for development, whilst eliminating most of the dangers of the electrical KERS system. Of course it does introduce it’s own mechanical dangers as anyone who worked for Philips MDA division 30-40 years ago could tell you (but may be legally prevented from doing so) so it’s interesting.

    While the ecologists applaud the introduction of hybrids and electric cars, they need to consider that driving their current old banger will release far less CO2 over it’s whole lifetime than just the manufacture of their electric vehicle, let alone generating the electricity with which to re-charge it. Rare earth minerals and some unpleasant chemicals will be used in power storage devices. On the road the hydrogen fuel cell is the cleanest option and offers feasible re-fuelling infrastructure. Whilst pure electric cars will have to change batteries for any long journey, this needs a vastly more expensive outlay and requires the standardisation of batteries and parts of the car. (In my experience of the European motor manufacturers this could take 10-15 years.)

  28. Off-topic … has Tony Fernandes sold out to Group Lotus? Any rumours there? Or did he buy Caterham to sell road cars, maybe with Team Lotus branding, just to rub the point in to the judges and Group Lotus about the separation between the racing company and the other company selling road cars?

  29. How much is that going to cost? Why should F1 teams pay for the development of a technology for the profit of the same car manufacturers that left the sport at the first sign of trouble?

    The economics really do not add up here and that’s why Bernie is furious with Todt who will not put a penny in, but get to call himself the “green” president.

    If the manufacturers want to make money out of greener cars then they should do the work themselves, as they did in the case of KERS and hydrid powertrains, efficient turbochargers, direct injection and everything else.

    1. GreenRed,

      The manufacturers are the ones who will be paying. Not the teams. Unless they can come up with something brilliant and then they can sell it to manufacturers (a la flywheel KERS)

  30. To save money, as Todt wants to badly, they should just resurrect the DFV and be done with it, screw the green weenies.

    Money, money, money…nothing is more simpler and nothing sounds cooler than a V8.

  31. The electric propulsion along the pitlane thingy is already in 2011 Le Mans regulations for hybrid prototypes. But there’s no push-to-pass nonsense, the electric power must delivered along with ICE engine power using the throttle pedal. And there’s a lot more power allowed, it also can be delivered to the front wheels. There’s at least one flywheel hybrid car on the entry list at the moment and much more various hybrids are expected next year.

    So yeah, F1 will use this neat way of showing exactly what is possible with kinetic energy recovery systems to its blinkered fans, while using 10% more fuel to power the exhaust-blown diffusers on overrun.

  32. Hi Joe, I’ve only recently been reading your articles and I enjoy every word you write. Also immensely enjoyed your “Grand Prix Saboteurs”.

    Regarding KERS – I’m convinced that one of the reasons BMW left the sport was because KERS was removed for 2009. I think BMW had big plans to develop KERS from F1, and use whatever F1 success that might be attributable to their KERS program to promote KERS on their road-going cars.

    Also – that the engines were reduced to 18K, thus reducing the BMW advantage of having an engine that performed very well over 20K – and didn’t explode (like many Mercedes), sorta reduced the BMW engine participation to a “spec” engine. Mercedes definitely won this change in my opinion…

    Just wondering if you agree???

    Thanx – Don Lutes

  33. What’s going to be really interesting to me is how the teams will approach the development of the complete engine/KERS package e.g. take an engine from say Renault and do their own KERS like Red Bull or take a complete solution perhaps including a gearbox too as I think Force India do.

    Then of course who will get it right and who will fail for a year or two? E.g. will say Merc get the package right from Day 1 with Renault/Ferrari/Cosworth/A.N.Other having issues that just can’t be solved quickly. It could well lead to a very simple F1 Championship in 2013 e.g. Merc-powered teams pickup most of the key points.

    Any idea what McLaren might do re engine supplier?

  34. ” a neat way of showing the world exactly what is possible with kinetic energy recovery systems”

    Tell that to Red Bull.

  35. The Nomad was a technical dead end that went nowhere and nearly brought Napier to its knees.
    In the USA, Curtiss-Wright added a turbo-compound system to its supercharged R-3350 [R stands for radial and the number specifices engine size in cubic inches] air-cooled, two-row radial, which began life as powerplants for the B-29. Exhaust gasses drove a turbocharger which applied extra grunt to an extension of the crank. Very efficient and saw good service in a lot of aeroplanes. It might work in F1, but cooling would be a huge problem. At the recent Australian International Air Show, I got a good look at one of these uncowled engines in a Lockheed Constellation. Visually beautiful aircraft. Same can’t be said for current F1 crop.

  36. I cannot help wondering if a turbo powered generator is feasible, whilst Joe’s example of the Napier Nomad was very interesting to investigate, it ran on a diesel cycle and was short lived, it had a 550kph airstream to cool it (being an aircraft engine on a Lincoln bomber)

    A turbo anything in F1 needs a complete rethink about engine packaging and layout, things will have to be in radically different places in order to function at all. It is exciting because it means having to start from scratch. An exhaust driven turbo runs at high revs, which would need to be geared down to get sufficient torque to drive a generator. (gearing will mean huge mechanical, friction/heat/sound losses) That is unless we consider a radical vhf permanent magnet generator, but that poses problems in how to take the power away, do you attempt to rectify it? (into DC) or just chop it and store each phase separately?
    Things that sane engineers would not normally even consider, but here we are at the edge of a new set of challenges. However expect very high voltages and explosions.

    Must have a look at how they do it in LMS but of course they don’t have the same packaging problems.

    BTW the site that OXO gave a link for is interesting in respect of the laser ignition system but also several pieces about leccy cars and infrastructure problems. (And amusing in how Americans think that their petrol (gasoline) is expensive) Now California is doing something akiing to what will happen here in the UK when electric cars are the norm and the income from duty and tax on fuel is all but dried up. (I said that the UK government would find a way to tax the electricity used to re-charge cars)

  37. The sound of the mechanics firing up the engine in the pit lane is the best thing about f1. Couldn’t disagree more

  38. This absolutely proves that the FIA and F1 cares absolutely nothing about costs, and all that posturing is just that, politically correct posturing…as it should be called.

    F1 is the biggest fantasy-land sport on the planet.

  39. More on the Nomad. Someone’s saying it was fitted to the Avro Lincoln [successor to the Lancaster] Not so. Never got on to an aeroplace. Poster might be confusing Nomad with the turboprop Napier Eland. A Lincoln, which took part in weapons trials in Australia in the fifties had Elands in place of the outboard Merlins. Apparently climbed like a rocket.
    [Another Lincoln had Armstrong-Siddley Pythons in the outboard slots.] Re another poster’s comment re the Napier Sabre. My favourite WWI aero engine.
    I-24 pattern, i.e., two coupled flat-twelves with the seperate cranks driving common reduction gear. Good for 2,200 hp with an exhaust note that someone described as “…like tearing calico.” Surely everyone remembers that BRM copied the idea for its 1966 GP engine. It proved a dog, despite the fact that BRM did not follow Napier’s down the sleeve-valve path, which proved so troublesome that the Air Ministry forced the company to adopt successfull technology used in Bristol radials, which achieved ultimate expression in the mighty Centaurus.

  40. The 2013 regs appear to be very exciting, I must say. Hopefully the rules will allow for plenty of ingenious creations and developments. If a bit of noise and an antiquated engine starter are all that is to be lost, I look forward to this future of F1.

  41. I just realized with the new rules that stalling out of a race will be a thing of the past! With the electric motors, you can restart any time.

    I am sure it’s been mentioned, but I haven’t read it anywhere. 🙂

  42. Jo Torrent,

    not only does it exist, but i heartily recommend Joe’s “cyclopaedia” as therapy 🙂

    . . .

    rpaco,

    i checked in to this thread, because i had a very dumb idea, and since you said “However expect very high voltages and explosions.” I’ll go for it. . .

    How much can you oxygenate a fuel before it’s suicidal? Is it even possible?

    You see, i was reading about what is nicknamed “hyperdecanting” – you chuck your wine into a blender. Doh, now i know why those el cheapo half full bottles we toted about the park as kids tasted so good. . .

    Oh, i imagine this would merely make for a hit youtube video with comments along the lines of “you survived!”, or an interesting inquest.

    . . .

    Joe,

    nice call on the Lancia. That was what i meant about cars designed with protractors!

    – j

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