A narrow escape

Thank goodness the F1 team bosses have had the good sense to step away from doing something really stupid and have voted not to make their lives more difficult with significant technical rule changes in 2017.

Formula 1 is struggling to keep up with itself and more change would have simply added to the problem. The idea that change is a good idea to rebuild the crumbling F1 audience is one that I believe is fundamentally flawed. Change for the sake of change is plain daft. There is nothing wrong with the sport that some good promotion will not fix. Of course that would require the promoter to actually promote, and as the owners of the business do not understand the concept of investing for the future there is little chance of that happening.

If you want evidence of this you need only to look at the other “big” story of the day in F1 circles: the toppling of Ferrari by Lego as the world’s most powerful brand. Admittedly, this is pretty nebulous, designed as a way to promote Brand Finance plc, a company that values brands. Founded in 1996, the firm calculates a list of “brand strength” by determining the value that a company would be willing to pay to license its brand if it did not own it. This involves a murky methodology of future revenue estimates and calculations of imagined royalty fees.

In any case, it makes headlines for some reason and the conclusion is that Lego is a stronger brand than Ferrari, which has tumbled to eighth on the list, behind such brands as PwC, Red Bull, McKinsey, Unilever and L’Oréal. The survey even suggests Rolex is bigger than Ferrari these days. I am not quite sure what has happened to giants such as Coca-Cola, Apple and McDonalds but “strength” is not the same as value.

Explaining the result, the company points to the importance of The Lego Movie, an animated feature film which came out last year, featuring talking Lego “people” which encouraged back-to-basics creativity. The story is the usual ordinary guy versus evil tyrannical Lord Business (read David and Goliath). This may be entertainment, but it is also promotion and evidence that Ferrari and F1 should do more to encourage interest from the cinema. F1 has a habit of producing stupidly high fees whenever anyone with an cinematic idea comes along.

According to Brand Finance, Ferrari’s drop is due in part to its poor performance on the race tracks and to the plan to relax the production cap to sell more cars. Brand Finance’s communications director Robert Haigh rather impertinently says that “people don’t see it as being so exclusive anymore.”

He’s clearly not living in the real world…

I firmly believe that the F1 product is great, but that it lacks promotion and its avoidance of social media is just plain Luddite. Kids still love racing cars and only drift away from them when access to the Internet take them off into virtual galaxies where F1 is utterly invisible. If you want evidence to back that up, look at the financial bonanza that the Cars franchise has been. F1’s gaming efforts are pathetic when compared to products such as Grand Theft Auto and its engagement with future customers is worse than zero. Its focus on profit at any cost is deeply unattractive. The problems are more fundamental than bodywork and horsepower. The FIA seems to understand this but has sold its power and so has little real voice, and what it does do is poorly orchestrated from a PR perspective.

For me the most interesting story of the day was that the federation engaged McKinsey to study how F1 costs can be cut without the sport being materially affected. The conclusion was that half the cost could evaporate without any drama.

The consulting firm studied the finances of the nine F1 teams and proposed cost-cutting measures that could help the small teams to survive on TV money alone, without the need for sponsors or pay-drivers. The study reportedly shows that a 25 percentage reduction in budget is possible even with engine fees being astronomical. It also concludes that 35 percent could be saved in the design and production process, 15 percent could be cut from racing activities and 20 percent from testing.

This has only come to light thanks to a leak to a friendly news outlet, rather than being out into the public eye in a more forceful manner – by means of an FIA press release. It hardly seems worth the McKinsey fees to have so little actual coverage from such a useful exercise, but it is sadly typical of the bunker-like thinking in FIA circles.

Perhaps it would have been smart to have asked McKinsey to compare the promoter’s share of the profits to other sports and the damage that has been done by the outflow of money that the sport should be using to keep its customers happy.

The structural problems in F1 are what drives away business. Fans don’t like being fleeced to go to races, nor to watch the sport on TV. They don’t like the fact that no one seems to care about them, beyond some token gestures now and then. And they don’t like the financial structures that make F1 an unfair playing field. Fix those problems and fans will watch any shape of car, with any kind of engine.

168 thoughts on “A narrow escape

  1. Hi Joe,

    I agree with you that the most relevant story of yesterday was the Mckinsey study ‘leak’. Hopefully the objective of the study was more to actually devise plans for teams to reduce costs than for the sport / the FIA to generate media attention.

    The mere fact that the review has taken place is a significant step in the right direction. I hope at least some of the Mckinsey recommendations will now be implemented.

    If teams owners were so take a perhaps cynical but pragmatic view of the sport all development on the current iteration of the sport should be paused. If there are to be fundamental shifts in the way the sport goes racing in 2017, all efforts should be directed towards this. 2017 seems likely to be the next point at which there could be a shift in the top teams. Force India, Sauber, Lotus, STR, are not going to contend for the championship over the next 2 seasons. Their fight is to not be last, This could be achieved with the current cars for 2 years with minimal impact on the quality of racing and a huge impact on the bottom line. In reality the top teams could do the same, the financial situation of the players within the sport would be much improved. Perhaps this is against the spirit of competition, but it could be a step towards are more commercially attractive sport for investors.

  2. Exactly. I understand why F1 needs us to pay to watch live, or very recent footage, and indeed why we should pay in many ways.

    What needs to happen beyond that is for F1 to make historical footage (probably from the previous GP going back as appropriate) available on youtube et al to give youngsters something to watch, something they can learn from and something to make them want to buy F1 coverage as soon as they can afford it.

    There are some fans out there that make jaw-droppingly beautiful montages of F1 footage from other clips, and all that happens is it gets taken down by FOM. This is fine, but FOM would be wise to learn from it and provide their own with top quality footage to make people who trip over the sport excited by it.

    If a bigwig ventured to the poor side of the circuit on a weekend, they would find thousands of children all over the place looking, smiling, sitting in showcars, playing simulators etc. The fans are there. FOM needs to *engage* them.

    1. F1 does not “need” us to pay to watch (ala pay per view model), it may want us to pay, but it doesn’t need it – that is a misuse of the word need.

      F1 has consistently shown that the more revenue the commercial rights holder, and the teams get, the more the teams spend. Increased revenue has clearly fed the arms race. It is entirely arguable that increased revenue is not in the long term interests of the sport and that increased revenue has gutted the sport, or at least what was the sport. It is increasing revenues that attracts the likes of Briatore to the sport and kept Bernie destroying any goodwill the sport has built up.

      It’s like arguing that Mr Creosote “needs” more food. Indeed, just watching that clip makes me feel that Formula1 has become Mr Creosote.

      I find the concept that we should promote anything that makes youngsters “want to buy F1 coverage as soon as they can afford it” to be extremely sickening. That is a terrible concept, and I hope that an idea such as yours is never taken seriously.

      At this stage I would also have grave concerns about any learnings the F1 world may offer to youngsters. Given it is currently a greed is good environment run by a man who paid his way out of a bribery courtcase I struggle to see what grounds it offers as a positive learning environment.

    2. Further to my earlier comment we do pay to watch F1 live. When it is shown on free to air tv the network concerned sells advertising space during the broadcast. The revenue the station can generate from these adverts traditionally pays the cost of the broadcast rights and the broadcast itself. The more expensive the broadcast rights the more expensive, and coveted (usually) the advertising space.

      This is the way it’s meant to be anyway, perhaps these figures no longer add up given Bernie’s increasing greed.

      The cost of the advertising is ultimately paid by consumers. Advertising costs are, like most other costs such as, transport, production, packaging, etc., factored into the price that we pay for the products, whether they be advertised during an F1 broadcast or any other free to air viewing. Indeed when I buy a product I am often paying for advertising that I haven’t seen, on channels I don’t watch, print media I don’t read, radio segments I don’t hear, or during sports matches I don’t attend.

      In some countries the cost of advertising can be used as a deduction or offset when determining taxation liabilities. So, in this case, the business doing the advertising, whether that be as adslots on a network during the broadcast, or as a team/event/rights sponsor seen during the broadcast (at the track etc), can benefit even more – or at least has financial offsets to the costs they’ve borne.

      Ultimately even free to air tv comes with a cost – the cost is borne by all of us, even those of us who don’t watch it – happily I do watch it, esp motorsport, and I am happy to pay what I pay in increased goods expentiture as a result.

      I’m not happy to give more money to feed the unhealthy appetities of the sport. F1 does not need me to pay any more money to watch the sport on tv than I already do. TV companies have paid ridiculous amounts for the right to broadcast, the big fish in F1 have grown very rich as a result. Greater revenues for F1 just mean more per slice of the pie. Big teams will still sit at the top, little teams will still struggle to compete at the bottom. If anything, increased revenue just widens the gap between the big and the small, making the continuing survival of the small fish even less likely. You don’t need a bigger pie, you just need distribute that pie more evenly. There is nothing in the pay per view model that does that any better than in a free to air model. Indeed, if viewing numbers fall as a result of the pay model then it potentially puts even more pressure on the little teams to attract sponsors.

      To paraphrase the words of the imbecile treasurer my country is saddled with…”Formula 1 does not have a revenue problem. It has a spending problem”

  3. When you put F1 coverage behind a pay wall viewer numbers are going to drop, its not rocket science, Australia is following the UK model with split coverage between pay and free to air. CVC does more harm than turbo engines and tires. F1 is and always will be a great sport, sometimes the people in F1 forget that and start looking for cooky answers. F1 needs to be confident in itself.

    1. It’s not so much a pay wall, as a pay obstacle or assault course, if you don’t look another way when you sign the check!

  4. As always, you are absolutely right with your last comment.

    I would rather watch the current crop of drivers racing top level karts on terrestrial TV. The programme would not need to be articially extended by an hour before and four hours after to explain what had happened as everything would have been transparent.

    Everything in F1 is opaque, in virtually all aspects, and it is that the drives old fans away and fails to attract new ones.

  5. SO true Joe. We’ve just been screwed into paying for Pay TV here in Australia as the live rights to most of the races have been given up by Network 10 in favour of Foxtel, who will show them all. I’ve resisted my wife’s attempts to get Foxtel for 15 years. It’s a bitter pill not only because of the cost, but because I now have to eat humble pie with her indoors if I want my F1 fix every fortnight.
    F1 and the FIA really are clueless. I feel like I am being treated with complete contempt – and I’ve followed the sport for 25 years (and spent a great deal attending many races here and on merchandise when I was young and dumb).
    Keep fighting the fight. I feel that you are a lone voice of reason.

  6. As far as I know the proposed rule changes will not be introduced in 2016, but whether these changes will be introduced in 2017 is still unclear.

  7. Great article. I agree totally with your take on promotion Joe, just look at the dross in the cinema that is pushed in your face and makes millions no matter how bad it is.

    In your opinion how bad will things have to get before they get better?

  8. [quote]F1’s gaming efforts are pathetic when compared to products such as Grand Theft Auto[/quote]

    Jo, I do not want to sound offense but you don’t strike me as the gamer type and I believe you were in your teens when Pac Man and Space Invaders were still popular 😉

    The F1 games of the last couple of years actually were fairly decent games. The problem is that a F1 game, which cannot really be anything other than a racing game with a rather small selection of cars and tracks, cannot be compared to a “do whatever you like” game like GTA. Those are simply two totally different genres and a F1 game will never be able to pull a GTA or COD.

    Even Gran Turismo has “only” 70 million sales over a 9 game and 13 year period. And that’s a game with enough content to please the far majority of people interested in racing games.

    F1 simply isn’t going to sell 10+ million every year.

    1. Grand Theft Auto Grand Theft Auto V is the fastest selling entertainment property in history, returning far larger revenues that the most successful movie opening weekends. Launched in 2013 the game generated more than $800 million in worldwide sales – in the first 24 hours after it went on sale. The game passed $1 billion in sales within three days. By comparison, the highest first weekend sales of a movie was a Harry Potter film in 2011, which grossed $483 million in its first few days in cinemas.

      1. I think he was pointing out that there already are licenced F1 games with a lot of accurate F1 input and these still don’t sell anywhere near GTA. I Fully agree that F1 has lost the PR battle (well it’s surrendered before hostilities even began) but you may be making an inaccurate point around GTA specifically. Try quoting the F1 games sales figures against GTA and you’ll see a game based on underworld crime stories is not actually relevant to sports gaming (unless we count tax dodging F1 types as criminal masterminds of course).

        1. I don’t care about GTA. If people buy GTA that is what F1 should aim for. Who cares if Fernando jumps out of his car and starts shooting people?

          1. I am a fan of racing games, and I do agree with you in one aspect, is that the F1 race games I have played are very boring in its presentation, when compared to a game like DiRT. This is not just down to gameplay, which is fine, but due to presentation, the interaction between drivers, the soundtrack etc.

            This also goes for F1 in general. I am a geek and like to understand the technical changes that are made, but to a casual fan or someone with little knowledge of the sport, there is no real way to see whats going on. The engines are amazing in many aspects but these things cannot be seen and are not communicated. I fully agree that the shape of the car does not play any role. It is all down to effective marketing and a level playing ground for teams.

          2. Right, so its about making money off F1 (like CVC does) rather than trying to get people interested in F1? Because Grand Theft F1 isn’t going to get F1 any new fans.

            Something like Kerbal Space Program but with F1/racing cars will probably be a much better way to use games to get people into F1.

            Alonso beating hookers and Vettel shooting communist nazi zombies certainly won’t.

            Anyhow just because GTA can make a billion doesn’t mean F1 can. Sure you can say F1 should aim for that but it simply is not realistic. If you ever play any games (candy crush doesn’t count ;)) you’ll understand why.

            1. Actually, that’s not a bad idea at all.

              The trouble I’ve always had with the F1 sim games is that, well, they’re simulating F1, and therefore, at 0-60 in 2 seconds and a 200mph top speed, almost as much more difficult than most “normal” driving games as the real thing. Everything happens too quickly, and they’re just no fun.

              And they miss the point anyway. I always tell non-fans that if you only watch the race on Sunday, it’s like watching the penalty shootout and saying you’re a football fan. F1 is a sport about building cars, not just driving them. So why isn’t that in the game?

              Of course, the trouble is that the regulations are so tight, and the differences between the cars so marginal, these days that “Kerbal F1 Program” would be extremely difficult to make a decent game out of. Kerbal Le Mans Program, on the other hand…

          3. Thinking about it you could do quite a good real life Fantasy F1/GTA including:

            Stabbing team owners in the neck with champagne glasses.
            Test drivers kerb crawling in milton keynes.
            Evading the Melbourne police for burnouts
            Making sure you don’t park your blue yacht in the wrong harbour for tax evasion
            Jumping a truck over an F1 car
            Stealing the trophy’s from a team. Thinking about it, stealing their entire blueprints for the car.
            Hiding a tonne of drugs in the truck and driving it from Zvandvort to the UK.
            Get with sales assistants in Australian department store changing rooms.
            Drive to circuits whilst protesters are trying to stop you.

          4. Joe.. It was funny that the Lotus April Fool’s day prank last year would have actually have made for a better game than the yearly F1 releases!

            I read it thinking, “this is great, maybe they are finally engaging with fans, trying to grow F1 in gaming”….. and then realised it was an April Fools joke!

            That in itself says a lot about F1’s current attitude to gaming, and how it is a wholly under-utilised source of income. The GTA sales stats further back this up.

          5. Fernando’s PR people would care but I know what you mean. There should be a range of games that cover everyone from the little kids who like bobble head drivers and cute cars, to the guys that want accurate sim racing. There are so many missed opportunities it’s a real shame.

            1. On that note, I thought F1 kart stars was well done. However, since it was done, they could now replace the ‘generic female character’ with Simona, Susie, Maria etc… throw in Danica, Beitske Visser, Tatiana Calderon if you want more!

        2. I bought the first one of the Codemasters F1 games. And the problem is, it wasn’t a good game. There were some really nasty bugs in there that made me drop it after playing through a mere season. Plus why is there only the racing game? Where is my F1 management game? There hasn’t been one in ages.

          And the F1 race games that are there are still way below the expectations I have around what such a game could be.

          1. You’d probably be better served trying the 2009 FW31 in iRacing. Williams licensed their car to a better simulated racing game instead.. Ferrari did similar with FVA and pairing up with Kunos Simulazioni, who have now made Assetto Corsa. These two ‘sims’ are much more like F1 team simulators than console games, however, and will require a wheel and pedal set.

            1. rFactor was a great driving model. I had been led to believe the coders had some involvement with the F1 simulators the teams actually use. Had great 3rd party support and LOTs of historical F1 seasons for free d/load. Would never compete with the GT6 market though – it was pure pc.

              1. Yes, I think versions of rFactor Pro were used, definitely for the ‘have-a-go’ simulators at sponsor events (I drove one at a Vodafone McLaren Mercedes event), and possibly for the real thing when it was new.

                I think Ferrari consulted with Kunos, as they were so far behind the curve when they started, but by now everything is probably bespoke. There are simulator companies that are probably employed by F1 teams.

      2. If anything, I would have thought that you would have advocated against wanting to adopt the marketing strategies of the AAA gaming industry – complaints about rampant cost inflation that has lead to aggressive money gouging strategies that have lead to increasing resentment and alienation with their consumer base and severely tarnished the reputation of the largest parties, whilst venture capitalists are criticised for trying to bleed dry captive markets.

        In fact, many have complained that the AAA game industry has created a situation not unlike F1, where it is constantly trying for flashier and more ostentatious spectacle to try and persuade a jaded audience to part with cash to paper over the cracks caused by soaring costs that have bankrupted many smaller developers and threaten to overwhelm even the largest parties.

        1. You have a point there, anon, for the last time I read news about the gaming industry, it was all about massive layoffs after massive over development. Not very long ago. The question then, is how to bring the potential pizzazz of F1 to a much smaller model, and even maybe a model of more than one developer producing interoperable “spec” Sims somehow? So that one can have some competition both or separately on the glitz and prettiness as well as the realism of the simulation, and in theory let them all work together. I don’t know if that is a genuinely tall order, or just gets the equivalent of a grasping builder / plumber sucking through their teeth and saying “ooh, that’s going to be expensive”.

      3. Agreed.

        Whilst it is true that GTA is a standout title that eclipses most games for sales and success F1 needs to wake up and smell the roses.

        F1 got fat during a period it when it was more exciting than most of the other options – I guess esp in Europe when it was early afternoon viewing, as opposed to here where it is sit up late, be tired and grumpy for work viewing. Sunday used to be a day of rest for many, Sunday arvo snoozy time in front of the tv. As we all know the world has changed, far more rapidly than most of us have expected. Over the last 10 years in particular Formula 1 has taken it’s eye off the ball, and largely resisted any technology outside the GP circus. One of many compelling arguments against having dinosaurs run the show.

        Just wait till VR hits us over properly over the rest of the decade. The line between sport and gaming is going to shift.

    2. That’s just the thing, I think: promotion isn’t about the “entire experience” it’s about getting the name out there. You just need to give a taste of F1, enough to make people curious and to get them to have a look. Whether they like it enough to stay is something else that promotion (and retro-look cars that sound like heavy metal bands – which means you would first have to explain the kids what heavy metal bands actually are, Signore Arrivabene) cannot solve. The (indeed quite decent) F1 games are for people who are already fans.

      GTA, for example, is by its very nature completely ludicrous, as are some aspects of F1 and you could imagine a “mission” in GTA being to deliver some highly experimental parts of a racing car to the track in time for the race (which in the world of GTA would probably involve parachuting onto the track just before the start and literally bolting the part onto the car right then and there while a grey-haired gnome is firing bags with 100 million Euros at you while a judge with an enormous hammer tries to squash said gnome). Merc might even give permission to use its in-game alter ego (suitably named Übermacht, I think), while Red Bull could undoubtably come up with some funny side game and cameo from its drivers.

      1. My first (and last) F-1 video game was “Nigel Mansell’s Grand Prix”. It had all of the stops for the 1992 season, but made for “Super Nintendo”. It got pretty boring right away, and when you raced in Monaco, the water was on the wrong side of the track. There was an accurate track map to show you where you were, but the backgrounds were limited by the computer power of the time (64kb). Almost a joke now. My son had F-1 2004, and it was much more realistic, but I’ve outgrown video games long ago.

    3. F1 games have always been restricted by licencing, the 2013 Codemasters game was the first game for a while to actually do something different, usually they are only allowed to feature cars from the current season however they managed to get permission to feature a selection of old cars and tracks. I actually bought the game because if this. The 2014 version however had no appeal as it was just the same as any other F1 game but with 2014 cars racing the same tracks.

      The F1 games actually do reasonably well in sales but it wouldn’t be fair to compare them to GTA V which has a much wider appeal, an F1 game alone could never be in the same league. There are other opportunities F1 misses though, games like Gran Turismo and Forza motorsport are racing sims featuring real life cars and racing cars. A few F1 cars have featured in games like these but it I very difficult for the game makers to get permission. This is just plain stupid as it is free advertising for F1 and can demonstrate to gamers just how fast F1 cars are compared to normal supercars and other race cars, something which doesn’t come across on TV.

      Car makers eventually woke up to the potential of games, they used to look down on them but now it is the perfect way to promote your cars, the gamers of today will no doubt be buying these cars in a few years time, if it wasn’t for Gran Turismo the Skyline/GTR would probably be virtually unknown over here.

      The lesson is F1 needs to loosen up and stop trying to protect it’s IP, the people who wan tot use and share it are doing them a favour, dinosaurs like Bernie simple don’t get this.

      1. Oh it certainly has something to do with protecting IP and wanting to make money off it. Or do you think all those cars in those games are free? Money has definitely been paid for that. I’m sure Ferrari (and others) are taking a nice cut of those 10 dollar+ car packs that you can download.

        Its also a question about what makes the most money. Having lower fees and allow cars to appear in multiple games or singing a exclusivity contract and only have your cars in one game. I suppose F1 figured having one license will earn them the most money as pretty much all other racing games contain many different types of cars so developers probably aren’t that likely to be willing to spend a lot of money just for some F1 cars. Hell, most contain F1 cars, they just aren’t called F1 cars.

    4. I think Joe’s on the money with GTA.

      What’s missing however in F1 racing games, is scoring points for killing Hare Krishna, and police chiefs proclaiming it as the devil incarnate, and a generation now my age, a smidge below Joe’s age by only a touch, queuing up to buy it from stores that wouldn’t age check us, for it was the first strictly rated game they really tried to enforce purchase access to.

      Anyone in their forties with exposure to computing at critical times will know what the GTA buzz is about, and the fact is that gaming audiences are mature now, buying for their kids, see Minecraft’s amazing journey, or rather Mineacraft’s creator’s amazing trip from solo Indy hacker to worldwide phenomenon. Joe’s definitely not too old for this sort of thing, just maybe we still incorrectly dump all this gaming lark for a teenage exclusive, when it has a much richer history. What simply hasn’t happened is any attempt at building a franchise for a F1 game, and changing licensees too often doesn’t help that, just as having a licensor with no innate interest in gaming probably condemns the idea as to real success, up against products that are marketed with full force and have total budgets up there with running a top team.

  9. You said it all.
    Sometimes I wish you would be in charge.
    Is there any hope left? Surely not in pathetic demos like Ferrari’s so-called project that was displayed yesterday, or the 1000 hp fantasy

  10. The comment about fans not feeling they matter is highly relevant and as such I think it’s shooting itself in the foot.

    One small example is the McLaren livery. All through the off season there has been an almost feverish expectation of a new McLaren livery and there have been some very professional and genuinely attractive livery
    Mock ups all over the internet. What if McLaren had actually engaged in this? Perhaps promoted it on Twitter? Provided a couple of hi-res images of the car in plain livery that could be easly manipulated for these mock up images. Perhaps even a competition to have the best livery on the car during testing.

    That would most certainly engage the fans but also, surely, it would be further evidence of the value of the McLaren brand. Further having such a contest would surely buy some time for Mclaren to find sponsor and divert a little attention from the fact they don’t, yet, have anyone willing to associate themselves with McLaren. Instead Ron Dennis summarily dismisses all of those fans with his ‘cheque-book’ comment. Further

    1. THIS. A hundred times this. Best livery in testing and the winner gets tickets to the GP of their choice? People would be all over something like that, even if just to have a little fun trying to design their own personal livery for a games room poster.

      1. Yup. And there are lots of fans able to do professional level renders as well. This wouldn’t be amateur hour. Just a wake up call for whoever gets paid to do liveries for a actual job right now. Much needed input, I say. Though I still think with McLaren it would have all the hallmarks of a square’s camper van getting daubed up by a bunch of hippies in a whacky movie about self discovery, yet, still…

  11. Another reason for “crumbling” audiences is pay tv walls.

    Australia has recently become the latest market for F1 to have its free to air exposure halved. I have watched almost every F1 race since I was 13 years old, I’m now 44. This year I will watch the 10 races that will be shown on free to air in Australia and I will illegally watch the other 10 via torrent the next day. F1 itself and it’s advertisers will receive no value from half of my viewership of the 2015 season. I’ll still see their logos of course but they won’t be able to point to it and claim it, and therefore they won’t be able to monetize it.

    F1 has also spent the last of its good will that it had built up over 30+ years of loyalty from me. If it all collapsed tomorrow and a new sport emerged in its place, I’m very sad to say, it would suit me fine.

    1. Dear Joe, all
      Re: Aussie coverage. In addition to f1 and V8s going to PayTV ( with partial FTA), NASCAR has totally disappeared from TEN. The replacement- Formula E. I suppose I should watch, oh, 5 minutes before I make a judgement, but, to be honest, I have far more interesting things to do on a Saturday morning, like blowing my nose, scratching my a*#e, and lying on the lawn, watching a single blade of grass grow.
      Having said all that, my 86yo dad, who has advanced cancer, and who I care for, and, who first introduced me to the Bathurst (then) 500mile race in 1969, LOVES his motor racing.
      As such, having perused the wares of Foxtel, when in addition to F1, and a far more comprehensive v8 coverage than FTA ever was, NASCAR, Indycar, they cover all the Super XV Rugby, and Rugby League games.
      If I factor out my loathing of Citizen Rupert, who gets 50% of the dough, I guess it is probably a reasonable deal, and, I am going to take a 12 month contract. If it gives Dad joy, then it is worth it.
      Whether I subscribe for another year, if my dad has passed on, is another thing entirely. I suppose I will be able to make a more informed decision after 12 months.
      Cheers
      MarkR

      1. Ouch, Mark, you may have given me the best and maybe only argument for paying Citizen Rupe his pennies. Along with a proper laugh out loud, thank you, for your comment on better things to do that watch formula e! For that alone, but for every other reason under the sun, I wish you and your dad as many viewing seasons as the whole economy can afford to subsidize! May I wish you boys the best of viewing together!

    2. I start from the point of view that there’s not been much goodwill from F1 for a very long time – much longer you’ve been watching Rhys. I’ve been watching since I was 10, fifty years ago (I’ll say this quickly), I’m now 60. Much of the goodwill in the UK was built-up courtesy of the BBC’s coverage. In this age of cutbacks I’ve noticed a decline in TV audiences due to the SKY/BBC split. The current DG of the BBC is not a F1 lover (and why should he be?) and due to further cutbacks demanded of them means, in my opinion, a miracle is required to save F1 being transmitted in the future on either SKY and/or BT internet. Thus F1 delivers yet another blow to the most dedicated F1 fans in the world. Stand up Mr BE – sorry, you are!

  12. “Fix those problems and fans will watch any shape of car, with any kind of engine.”

    While I agree with what you write as being the fundamental problems of F1, I can’t agree with that final comment. The total lack of public interest in Formula E being the most recent example.

    I know we always look at the past through rose-colored glasses, but I’m convinced F1 has taken a wrong turn by the introduction of the new engines last year. Sure they are more road-relevant than the V8’s en V10’s and sure it’s a technical wonder that they complete a whole race with just 100kg of fuel.

    The thing is that I just don’t want to think about how planet-saving and road relevant these news cars are when I’m watching a race on sunday afternoon. I’m reminded of global warming, C0² and fossil fuel related problems every day already, thank you. For me – and I guess for many others – F1 is meant to entertain me by sheer spectacle,not to marvel at some eco-friendly excellence that’s under the hood and which supposedly helps save our planet.

    I know there was a lot wrong with F1 in the early 2000’s, most of all Ferrari’s utter domination of that period. But I think it’s undeniable that F1 was much more exciting to watch as an all out spectacle. Sure, qualifying speeds are ‘only’ about 3-4 seconds down from 2004, but due to full fuel tanks, the current pirelli tires and the need to save fuel en engines, the, fasted lap on sunday is up to 8 seconds down from 10 years ago. and that’s the fasted lap, the average race pace is down even more. Combine that with the lackluster sound and it just doesn’t look/feel as exciting to me anymore as it did before.

    And I’m someone who’s still watching everything and reading blogs like these. Many of my friends have given up on watching F1 last year altogether unfortunately…

    I for one think the sound is the biggest problem, and if that can be solved by tweaks to the current regulations fine. Just dropping the fuel flow limit and allowing some more fuel will go a long way I think.

    1. I’m sorry but I can’t agree. The only time in my life I tuned out of F1 was in those seasons were Ferrari dominated (early 2000’s) because why bother when it’s already decided. I don’t buy the noise argument, nothing wrong with it, they still sound like racing cars.

      1. I agree, but Ferrari’s domination aside, F1 was more exciting a decade ago. Let’s not forget that F1 2014 was exciting only because Mercedes did not favor one driver over the other. If they had used team orders, last year would have been just as boring or perhaps worse than the years of the Schumacher/Ferrari domination.

        1. Dear Joe, all
          Eric- you have a point there. An interesting thought arises in response to it. Sooner or later, (precluding a Merc withdrawal from f1), when another team catches up, it will be interesting to see if the same (admirable) philosophy continues.
          Anyone willing to give odds, one way or the other?
          Cheers
          MarkR

          1. I reckon they have to rig it so there’s catch up sometime soon. Maybe not this season, but by next. With everything so screwy messy and political, nothing rational seems able to happen, so too much will start to ride on whether there’s actual game up the front, so if push comes to shove, some regulation or another will come to spanner the Benz works..

    2. I would gladly pay to watch races live (I do for V-8 Supercars), and also, despite being free to air coverage (if you have NBSsn in your package), I would rather watch the BBC coverage via VPN (for which I pay). The coverage is so awful in the U.S. what with the commercial breaks to pay for the coverage. I wish I had a nickel for every time they come back from commercial breaks saying “here is the pass made by Lewis while you were away”. Our broadcast anchors are knowledgeable, and try, but are constrained because they are sitting in a studio in Charlotte, NC watching the same world feed we see. Love to see DC, et all on their pit walks before the races on BBC.

    3. I tend to support your points Eric. In my view GP racing has no connect with fuel economy or smart tech, it should be about the fastest, smartest driver, using a car that is on a par with 29 others on the grid, winning the race without it depending on some stupid rule application, or 20 guys changing his tyres in 0.2 secs or any other contrivance….My kids who are in their 20’s play GTA and F1 games, but mostly want to just see ACTION on track, and not just 1 or 2 cars from the same team winning week after week, when we all know that there are probably 6 other drivers who could be up there with those 2 cars, if they had a level playing field. Don’t tell me it has always been the same, as although such as the Lotus 79 & Williams FW7 were dominant cars, other teams were able to win against them and have close races all season. In 2015, we will have the Hammy & Rosie show all over again, and that won’t attract me to watch the meagre number of live events that the Beeb will show.
      F1 is on a declining trajectory that began in the late 1980’s when money started to remove the teams from a connect with their Fanbase, and that has slowly driven a wedge between the Team Owners and the Fans ever since then. A report says that the Teams could drop spend by 50% and no one would find it a problem, in fact Teams could revamp and drop maybe 75% of expense and put on a better show….but don’t count on it as they don’t do anything these days, that counts as giving something back to the Fans!

  13. All of this x 1000. If you keep shouting it Joe, maybe someone will eventually hear you. I have watched pretty much all of last season’s FIA WRX via their facebook feed / youtube. Virtually nothing online from F1 available to watch.

  14. Well said, well said.

    It’s time to bring the sport we love back to the people, and for the people!

    Joe, I think you should lead the fan’s uprising!!

    Creativity is contagious, pass it on!
    -Albert Einstein

    1. “There are two things that are infinite: The universe, and human stupidity…and I’m not too sure about the universe.” – Albert Einstein.

      (Not a retort to your comment, just one of my favourite Einstein quotes and useful in many, many contexts).

  15. Well said (written) Joe. The only parts where F1 really needs to “up it’s game” is in making people know about it and pulling them into enjoying it.

    Instead we got the wisdom of “banning F1 drivers from changing their helmets” as Autosport reports today

    1. That was hilarious. I think the horse has already bolted on that one.. Vettel said he would like to keep a theme in his Ferrari helmet. It only makes the FIA look more ridiculous and outdated, although if that’s all they can do, when they probably want to do it to stay relevant.

  16. Here’s a quote from a new York post online business article.

    “In 2011, 21.7 million young adults tuned in to their TV sets. By the end of last month, that figure had fallen to 17.8 million, according to Nielsen figures.

    Adding insult to injury, the median age of the TV audience hit 50 this year. That’s older than the 18- to 49-year-old audience that network executives have banked on for decades.”

    So, if you have no net presence, you have no future.
    Just gray haired fans, who when they die off have nobody to replace them.
    And f1 has about zero net presence.

    btw, the irl had an animated movie connected with it not long ago and iirc, it lost money for the studio and did nothing to increase fans of the terrible product.
    Just making a movie doesn’t mean you’ll automatically get more fans.

    As for the report, I think the small teams should follow the suggestions and save all the money they can. Big teams use the series to market their cars/drinks, so if they feel they come out ahead blowing all that money, then they should be able to do so.
    I see Ford capitalizing on their Le Mans victory of 50 years ago by coming out with a new GT. Only manufacturer I recall trying to recreate an f1 car is Lotus, and I thought I read that they sold 0 units. I wouldn’t be surprised if hat GT run will sell out before it’s even started being made. Being road relevant must help sales.

    I believe NASCAR and irl don’t have those kinds of problems, and people aren’t watching like they used to.

    1. “Adding insult to injury, the median age of the TV audience hit 50 this year”.

      Bernie will take that fact as manna from heaven – finally TV audiences are old and square enough to want to buy a Rolex! I joke, of course – or do I?!?

      1. Forza, you speak the real truth, there, old boy!

        Sure thing, the demographic swung firmly into Rolex territory. Dangerously so. The problem is that figuring out a path to rejuvenating, rather than infantilizing F1, is as hard as doing a Benjamin Button. Though the personal deep searchlight would throw up some good things, if taken as a exercise.

  17. Last paragraph is spot on Joe. F1 is run like a private club with the mentality which comes with it. Look at NASCAR (I see eyes rolling of many of your readers) the product is O.K. but it is highly successful. People feel connected to it, not remotely brushing it. Most Drivers make an effort to be “cool” with the fans (I experienced it first hand last year with Kevin Harvick at NHMS).
    F1 is a much better product and I would love to see it blow NASCAR out of the water… I mean, track. The potential is REALLY there. Who will unlock it Joe ?

  18. Sound of the engines is just plain wrong.
    I’m a former fan. Got free tickets to this years Aust GP as my car is on display. Won’t use them except to clean it Saturday and Sunday morning and get it out Sunday night.
    No interest in watching horrible sounding 4 cylinders follow each other around.

    1. Which car is on display? Have you heard the trackside footage from the Jerez test? FOM might not like it, but it allows us to hear that the engines are louder this year, so perhaps they can capture more of it on the TV mics/the broadcasters won’t level it so low to talk over it.

      But, as someone from the ‘younger generation’, who has heard the V10s live, the Jerez sound level sounds perfect to me. Loud enough for no earplugs, but not too loud that it would scare away a mass-market appeal, not that that’s the aim for live attendance.

  19. “F1’s gaming efforts are pathetic when compared to products such as Grand Theft Auto and its engagement with future customers is worse than zero.”

    Bang on the money.

    Look at the sucess of the computer game Football Manager. The Premier League were so keen to associate themselves with it, clubs started using the technology used for the performance reviews and databases into their scouting networks.

    There were examples of excellent F1 strategy games in the 90’s which still have a fan base to this day but a new version was never made due to rights issues. These days a simple app has more technology involved than the 90’s games and there are several decent motorsport strategy games on the market, minus official team names and drivers. F1 really needs to get its act together in this department.

    1. We could do a early style GTA “manager” going out into dodgy night clubs with underage women and having to raid the docks for extra axel grease to keep the hair slicked back, whilst breaking into the factory at night to plant strange” code 13″ viruses into the ECUs…

  20. I’ve run some figures before out of personal interest and if CVC was to disappear that alleviates a lot of the problems.

    If the teams took a trust like ownership like you suggested Joe and took 90% of the broadcasting rights, they could still generate more income with a TV deal worth less than the current one. The knock on effect of CVC profit targets not being a factor in any and all F1 discussion is that hosting fees could come down to be affordable to countries irrespective of their oil reserves, which could then make tickets to races affordable to us non-rolex folk.

    Everyone wins, bar the hedge fund we don’t want to win.

    For too many years the sport has been aligned with Bernies interests. Irrespective of people views on him, I ask where will he be in 5 years time?

    Lots of talk, I challenge the teams to walk the walk.

    For the average punter the sports brand is lingering in the gutter with the IOC, FIFA and a number of boxing organisations. A lot of people simply refuse to put their money towards F1 quite simply because they cannot stand Bernie & Co. Countries, companies, individuals.

    1. When running those numbers, did you include the debt CVC has generated by mortgaging F1 and pulling cash out? My understanding is that there is several billion dollars of debt being serviced. Anyone acquiring F1 is also taking on debt; CVC owns something like 35% IIRC. Do you think it’s possible to do as you suggest with CVC valuing the product in the ten billion dollar range?

      1. Hi Steve,

        Cheers for the questions.

        a) The interest is all deductible. So in cash terms it is only be costing CVC 70-80% of the loans interest rate. F1s rate of growth is far greater than what loan yields have been over the last decade. In light of that it makes sense to take on as much debt as possible within reason to avoid parting ways with cash. Whatever level of debt CVC has it is more out of choice as opposed to necessity.

        b) What I believe the teams should do is simply wind up their companies and start new ones. All contracts are with the races teams, so wouldn’t the contracts become null and void if one party ceases to exist? I know its not that simple but I think it would be stupid for the teams to buy CVC out. Irrelevant anyway – as much as I think the middle man serves no purpose other than operating on board room orders not in the interests of the sport, I cannot remember a time all team principles agreed on something in the sport – even common sense.

  21. Joe, I have been following F1 since 1976. So I think I can offer an opinion. The structure of F1 is that it is a beast that requires enormous sums of money to feed it.

    I agree that budget should be reduced. Unfortunately, I don’t think that is going to happen without a collapse in the current structure.

    With respect to the Fans. Forget the 1000HP speed. Consider opening up the tracks to be more challenging. For example, why not restore the Jochen Rindt Curve in Austria. Go back to Imola. Take out a chicane at Monza and race for 220 miles.

    Also, close the paddock club to businesses. Sell the tickets to fans. My price point is $1000 – $1500. Photo passes – sell them again. I bought several at Detroit and Montreal.

  22. Did the report give a value on F1 as a business?

    Or to put it another way, how big a pot of money would I need to purchase F1 from CVC?

      1. Surely if you add in the debt of several Billion then its worth about the same as Caterham. (Remember the Pen State Railway) Will those gigantic loans be paid off by the end of the teams agreement (2020)? I gather that for once the teams all have the same end date, though it does not sound like Bernie to let that happen unless that is hi chosen leaving date.

  23. The one thing you touched on re the McKinsey report is surely critical – TV money. If F1 pursues the pay TV route there will be a huge tranche of unhappy fans and that will include youngsters and/or pensioners (let’s not forget the fans who have real money). I don’t see many pensioners playing with Lego but I may be wrong of course. In a way, it’s a little like brand strength arguments – money in the bank (Apple) and ‘visibility’. I support the notion of encouraging an younger audience but let’s not forget the older fans who have supported this sport through thick and thin. Lose those and who knows where F1 end up.

  24. I recall a series — in fact, a couple of them — where the problem was said to be the promoters just not doing their job. The problems were far deeper, and at last in this work Joe moves on to cite other, more significant difficulties. F1 might do better with better promoters, but that of course is not their issue. Kudos (a Yank term meaning “atta boy”) to Joe for not wanting to dump in even more technology, even more speed, with the corresponding costs in money and safety as a way to get things going again.

    Oh, the issue? That motor sports world wide has an aging fan base, and that sponsor-based auto racing now competes with all sorts of things (such as “the Internet”) for ad dollars, and that broadcast/cable TV is a dinosaur waiting for that proverbial asteroid.

  25. I agree with you to a point Joe but your argument reminds me of this episode of the simpsons…

    Essentially the promotion of a local football game gets the crowds in…but they’re bored out of their brains once they realise what they’ve got to watch. F1 in 2013 was dull, F1 in 2014 was dull and it’s probably going to be dull again in 2015.

    As it happends I do enjoy it, but I can entirely sympathise with transient sports fans that simply write it off as being a tiresome bore.

      1. Everyone else disagrees with you . The racing has sucked ! As is proven by the rapidly decreasing TV audience as well as the massive drop in ticket sales worldwide along with sponsors bailing out by the dozens and teams falling by the wayside daily

        1. No they don’t. A few people have disagreed, but plenty of people think it has been fine. It is also about the TV coverage. When you go to races (which I do) the racing is always fine. TV can make it dull.

          1. ‘Fess up, Joe: we have all been to races which were dull, and where it’s been difficult to maintain attention – and where there has been much vocal comment on the fact in the media centre. It happens, although I always tried to find something interesting happening somewhere in the field – not always successfully.

        2. Nope, ‘Slinger, not every else disagrees with Joe. 2014 racing has been good. The “massive drop” in ticket sales, etc., has much more to do with the ‘promoter’ doing the opposite – criticising the noise (FFS does that man not know how to sell his product?) and talking down the series. What an idiotic, self-defeating approach!

        3. Please, don’t speak for me. I do not think the racing has sucked.

          Citing TV audience is misleading. The shift to PPV in several areas has clearly affected audience figures.

          I’m not saying there aren’t problems, but I don’t think the racing is anywhere close to being the thing most in need of fixing.

        4. Every time I see people say this I really do wonder what they are watching? I remember F1 ten years ago and I know that what I watched the last two years was far, far, far better than that.

          So few true overtaking moves each race you could count them on one hand; drivers droning round in a long conga line waiting for pit stops to be able to ‘overtake’; the infamous ‘Trulli Train’; seriously quick drivers finishing fourth but posting a FL just to prove they could. Do you not remember these things?

          The racing of the last two years has been spectacular, and infinitely better than anything that happened in a year with two zeros in the middle.

          However, the TV coverage has been execrable, expensive, or both. I dropped my TV subscription last year because the ‘service’ offered by TSN (Canada’s broadcaster) wasn’t worth even $10 a month, let alone the $70 they were charging me.

          1. The racing has definitely been better, but I think people miss how the cars used to look tough to drive. Since the 2009 rule set was introduced, the cars always appear planted and don’t move around as much as they used to. The 2004 cars, by contrast, looked very challenging to drive!

            1. Erm… what? So you missed the slipping and sliding, and the full-on drifting that was going on this year then, did you? The cars of 2004 didn’t look challenging, they were so over-fed with downforce and drivers were so scared of shredding their tyres by trying to overtake that they just sat there, in a line, doing nothing. Perhaps you are thinking of 1994?

        5. No the tv audience has been deliberately sacrificed for money. The racing was great. The organisation and governance stinks and may kill it.

        6. Afraid not – the less grippy cars last year saw drivers struggling a bit more (although could do with more punishment for going over the limits to really see who are the best drivers who can consistently run on the edge). And there was fantastic racing throughout the races. I really don’t understand anyone who says otherwise, There are plenty of sticks to beat F1 with at the moment, but this is clearly not one of them.

        7. I disagree with you GuitarSlinger – both myself and a work colleague both thought last season was one of the best in a long time.

          I think the audiences have come down partly because of the pay to view requirements in some countries and also the negative / poor news releases coming from both FOM and the FIA and their total lack of understanding on how to support F1 and get people interested.

          F1 is a fantastic sport and it just needs someone to show people how good i is

      2. I think that there is some reality in the fact that the formulae of F1 make for very nuanced racing, to which one has to be attuned, to enjoy fully or even at all. So when the systems change, what a fan may instinctively look for, may suddenly not be there. Personally, I always liked the fact that to really enjoy this sport, you had to be at least involved a bit more than any other racing. That idea may not be to everyone’s preference. It’s both something to build on, and promote, as well as a challenge to do those things well.

    1. 2013 was only dull after the tyre change allowed Red Bull to romp away on the harder tyres. They should have swapped development focus after the summer break to 2014, as it was already ‘game over’ at that point, and Vettel knew it..

      However, it also allowed us to see the potential of Romain Grosjean on harder tyres. It was thrilling to watch him leading and almost win a race, in more of a ‘2004’ racing style, something that seemed to be extinct post-DRS.

  26. #1 The FC Survey

    A) First off this survey has existed in one form or another for decades with FC just being the current minder . Second ; The FC has two surveys one showing brand strength [ recognition ] the other .. brand worth [ Apple being the big winner ]

    B) Brand recognition is in fact excessively important , The more people that know who you are and what you do .. the better your chances for success [ Business 101 ]

    C) A drop in those rankings can and usually does prove disastrous to ones bottom line [ Business 202 ]

    D) Coca Cola and in fact all soft drink brands have been on the wane now going on the last five years what with excess obesity ,, the rise of diabetes … and especially due to the rise of energy drinks over soft drinks such as Red Bull etc [ they’re both excessively bad for your health … but one .. energy drinks .. are perceived as being healthier … 3 times the sugar and 5 times the caffeine go figure ]

    ——————

    #2 The Geneva indecision

    A) In light of the fact that the current cars are costing teams a godawful fortune to build and race

    B) Added to the fact that the technology has so many of the teams flummoxed to the point of one sole team dominating [ and looking like they will again this year ]

    C) As well as the fact that the general F1 audience despises the current breed of flatulating Doodle Bugs to the point of turning off the tube and/or canceling attending races live in droves

    D) Not to mention sponsors bailing out by the dozens as well as manufactures falling by the wayside as steady as the rain in London

    Well Joe … just how in the ___ can you possibly see this non-decision as being in any way shape or form good ?

    Fact is … what is …. aint working … and is in dire need of an immediate , drastic and overwhelmingly rapid fix

    Cause here’s another bit of Business 101 . If things continue on the present course … the sponsors will all but disappear … I know of at least one manufacture that will take BMW’s example and get outta Dodge .. no one new will come into the sport … the TV and attendance numbers will drop even further …. and that which we know as F1 will cease to exist

    ( Honestly at the present rate I can see a day where F1 becomes the new Polo . Strictly for the rich hobbyist and no longer a viable sport on the world stage except to those very few that can afford to follow / participate in it )

    To Quote the wise sage of days gone by , Frank Zappa ; ” When it coms to the Business side of things …. its all Business baby … and you’d better not forget it ”

    And like it or not [ I don’t ] Business is what keeps the ‘ sport ‘ of F1 [ such as it is presently ] afloat .

    Lecture over . Coffee and donuts in the Student Lounge . Quiz next Thursday

    😉

    1. A cogent and we’ll structured statement of personal opinion but short on facts. Nicely done. My disagreement focuses on engine noise and what is or isn’t working.

      If the dinosaurs of F1 insist on running blindly to extinction (agreement with everyone’s business assessment) so be it. You can’t stop evolution in the face of greed and or ignorance.

    2. Dear Joe, all
      GuitarSlinger, your use of ‘everyone else’ is innacurate- as I enjoyed the 2014 season, and constitute a part of ‘everyone else’, yr as serration has been shot to pieces.
      My ‘rule of thumb’ in comparing 2014 to 2013 was the number of times I ‘nodded off’ watching races live in the wee small hours, in Australia.
      I loved the racing, I loved the hybrid power units, found the fuel usage figures very interesting- especially Lewis, compared to Nico.
      Having said that, part of the reason I found 2013 less interesting was the 4 seasons of Vettel/RBR dominance, and, if the same happens with Mercedes, who knows. That they allowed their drivers to race mitigates the likelihood, though.
      Cheers
      MarkR

      1. Mark P Ryan, I know TopGear says an awful lot of nonsense to cheer people up, however Clarkson noted last week, that some BMW that was a Hybrid and said to do 134mpg, was in fact only doing 35mpg when driven in normal road conditions rather than a Lab test.
        I expect he was telling the truth as I have driven Hybrids and cars with Eco features and if you look at the fuel read outs the onboard computers give, they don’t make impressive reading at all….it’s all Smoke & Mirrors so that car makers can be said to be complying with absurd fuel emission rules in the EU & USA…..there is no reality in it, but it makes a few treehuggers happier….not overly happier as the Greens want us all to push wheelbarrows around rather than use trucks etc etc!
        And fuel usage being something that you find ” very interesting ” in a Formula 1 GP…!!!!….???????????….JUST WHY?? For God’s sake, it’s called MOTOR RACING…..the clue is in those words…….I’m sure you’re a lovely guy, and we all have the right to have our own views on things, but really, I despair at that sort of slant on what I always viewed as an exercise totally unrelated to an Economy Run.

        1. Dear Joe, all
          Damien- funnily enough, I saw my first motor race at Mt Panorama Easter races in about ’66, age 5. I grew up in Bathurst, my dad was in the car game. I am pretty sure that I know what motor racing is:-)
          In fact, I made the statement ‘I loved the racing’ including the fuel usage figures. Why? 1-because, as much as he irritates me, Lewis’ fuel usage figures compared to Nico’s, are consistently better, for damned close lap times, and, it speaks to a sublime skill 2. Almost everything about F1 intrigues me- the on track, the tech, the politics & machinations. I think, when you look at the subject matter which Joe publishes, and the responses, it is reasonable to say that the same is true for all of us. 4. Any mug (comparitively speaking) can get 1000bhp out of a turbo 1.6, using an unlimited supply of fuel. I think it’s great that the current f1 cars use a fair bit more than the traditional 25% of energy released at ignition. It involves creativity, and, I admire creativity.
          I am not, by nature, an avowed greenie. Show me a Porsche 918, or a McLaren p1, and, a ’71 351ci Ford Falcon GTHO Ph III running 98 octane leaded, and say, ‘take your pick’, and, I’ll be off doing 15mpg and max revs till all 36 gallons are gone, after I spend 30mins in neutral, prodding the throttle, listening to the exhaust note.
          I don’t know enough about the US/Euro ‘fuel emissions rules’ (from context, I am guessing that you mean the Govt designed and approved fuel economy test cycle’ concept, yes?), but, I know the Aussie one gives ‘favourable’ outcomes for any ICE vehicle’s use of hydrocarbon based fuels, whether hybrid or conventional. I have read that a pure EV can be rated at zero emissions of CO2, despite the electricity being produced from coal. (Can anyone enlighten me here- I thought ICE’s emitted CO, not CO2-or, have I got it wrong??)
          Surely, though, the issue there is (a) that the test itself does not accurately simulate real world driving, and, as such, is still an accurate measure when comparing other ICE vehicles using exactly the same criteria?? Either way, if a vehicle with hybrid tech uses a greater percentage of the energy released at combustion for production of power, it is, logically, more efficient than a vehicle identical to it, except for an absence of hybrid tech.
          The 2014 (or, it may have been early 2015) ‘Wheels’ (trust me, like it’s ‘competitor’ from the same company, Bauer, it is not a patch on UK ‘Car’) magazine car of the year was the BMWi3. Plastic and aluminium construction, but, don’t mention how much energy it takes to manufacture aluminium). It is an EV, or, for $6k more (approx. £4k?) you get a 600ish cc 2cyl which doesn’t top up the batteries!!!! Wheels were adamant about that!!! The EV only version ran out of electrons at 120km, despite the dash display indicating 140 left. What ensued was begging a nearby house for a couple of hours charging!! This is the Australian car of the year. Sydney to Perth, by road, is 4050km. Bathurst, my hometown, to Sydney, is 200km-a 2.5hr trip by conventional vehicle, about double that by EV. It’s not just the official economy figures that are BS, nor the manufacturers who deliberately design cars, I suspect, to jump through the official hoops, there are some motor journos who actively enable the BS.
          If you want proof that hybrid is, as a rule, more efficient than non hybrid propulsion, I give you the 2 major US diesel loco manufacturers- energy produced under regenerative braking, rather than being released as heat, by resistors on the roof, is being fed to battery packs under the frame, and used when climbing hills. Not a huge amount of gain on predominantly flat roads, but, 8% on hilly ones. The railroads which purchase them are pretty chuffed with the reduced operational expenditure. Personally, I think, for road cars, and trucks, the ideal hybrid is a similar concept- ICE driving generator, supplying power to electric motors, which, under braking, become generators charging a battery pack, but, with the option of the battery pack providing alternate power, as well as augmentative.
          In closing, I LOVE motor racing, Damien- all the other ancillary bits just add to the interest- I am, by nature, extremely curious, but, none of it would be worth a pinch of pigs*#t without the cars-going- round-in-circles-very-fast bit:-)
          Cheers
          MarkR

        2. Damien, I wish you could pull your head out of the 20th century and understand that if we continue on the kinds of paths you want we will make life on this planet unbearable by the end of the 21st Century. Whilst you obviously don’t care about this, most likely because you won’t be around to see it, many of us either have children who want to have the opportunities that we did, or give enough of a damn about the survival of the species to try and give it a chance.

          You have an extremely backward and selfish attitude to it all. If you so desperately need to watch gallons of fuel being burnt and spat into the atmosphere there are plenty of other forms of motor racing out there for you to enjoy, top fuel dragsters spring to mind, as you would probably interpret the taste of burning rubber as some kind of indication of motoring supremacy.

          The overwhelming majority of climate scientists are convinced that we have a real, and pressing issue with man made climate change. The only dissenters are those wedded to fossil fuel technology either due to the enormous profits they have made/are making, or because they are too arrogant or stupid to accept we have to change. People with attitudes such as this are holding a gun to the head of humanity, like drunken loons running around in a bar with AK’s crying that the rest of us are trying to impinge on your way of life when most are hiding under the table scared witless at the damage your attitudes are wreaking.

          That is perhaps the biggest rub. People like you whinging and whining about greenies, and tree huggers, destroying your way of life, ruining your motor sport, oh woe is me why can’t I continue to treat the planet like my own private sewer, at the same time that you insist on practices that have already heated our planet to too close to critical mass. I no longer have time for people like you, you don’t give a rats about the rest of us and your incessant whining puts a three year old to shame. If you are too stupid to accept the science keep shooting your mouth off about nasty greenies and tree huggers. It will just make you easier to identify when people like me get fed up enough to choke you on your own crap.

          I am sorry for any rational person that is shocked by my aggression but it’s attitudes such as Damien’s that have brought us to this point and making any kind of progress too slow to give any comfort. If he came into your yard and gassed your hothouse, then took your kids hostage you would rightly throttle him. As far as I am concerned that is what he and his lot have been doing for the last couple of decades. I’m not putting up with it anymore. If you choose to give these idiots oxygen to burn then buckle down and get ready for the consequences, they are appearing around you now anyway.

    3. Dear Joe, all
      GuitarSlinger, are you absolutely certain that it is the fretboard that your left hand is working??;-)
      As to the other teams being ‘flummoxed’- the core issue was that Mercedes had the smarts to put the turbo impeller at the front of the engine, not the rear, like Renault and Ferrari. RBR had the smarts to produce a car that worked reasonably well in low downforce mode.
      ‘the general F1 audience despises the current breed…etc’-there you go again, using generalisations to ‘support’ what seems to be nothing more than your opinion. What evidence, apart from your opinion, do you have to back this statement?
      You ‘know of at least one manufacturer…. get outta Dodge’. So, at least one- dose that imply one, or two, and, if you ‘know’, then, why not enlighten us ignorami who don’t know??? Which one(s) do you ‘know’?? Now, the word ‘know’, by definition, implies certainty- otherwise you might use ‘surmise’, or ‘opine’ or even ‘I am making a wild arsed guess’- please, do tell, the source of your gnosis. I really don’t think it is fair of you to possess such large amounts of ‘KNOWledge’ and not share with your fellow enthusiasts at JoeblogsF1:-p
      I do love your Zappa quote, allow me to mis-use it. ‘When it comes to the knowledge, it’s all EVIDENCE, baby!!!’
      Written in the spirit of mischief, not malice.
      Cheers
      MarkR

  27. Hi Joe,
    Question: Who was promoting the suggested regulation changes for next year? Been such a long twisted story I can no longer remember?

    Thanks.

  28. Joe, they’ve obviously read your recent post on the proliferation of helmet designs as they’ve just banned mid-season changes forthwith.

    Expect them to attend your soiree in melbourne disguised as aussie fans.

  29. Sorry, but a slight quibble. You said, “There is nothing wrong with the sport that some good promotion will not fix.”

    But, the excellent second half of your post, about the costs, clearly shows there is a major problem that cannot be solved by promotion.

  30. And yet in the midst of all this … what does F1 decide to address today ?

    Banning changes to ones helmet’s paint scheme mid season .

    Yeah … thats real important . Demanding immediate attention !

    Know what Joe ? I’m becoming convinced that the people running F1 today are directly related to the lunatic fringe running our Washington DC [ congress and senate ] over the last decade or so

    e.g. Focusing on the trivial … ignoring the obvious … and continuing to do the same thing over and over again in vain hope for a different outcome the next time around

    Madness I say ! Utter , abject , verging on insanity … madness

    1. GunSlinger – some people on this forum do think it’s a real issue. I’m not one of them.

      Please, I’m being tongue in cheek – sorry if that causes offense. I know very well that everyone on this forum believes the health and viability of F1 is far more important than helmet paint schemes even if the news will be of interest to some.

      Goes to show we don’t know who is paying attention to what is written here – I can’t help but wonder if the paint scheme decision came about as a result of the strength of feeling on this forum. I don’t get around much F1 internet outside of Joe’s blog – has this been a topic of note or discussion elsewhere in the F1 world over the last 12 months?

        1. In acknowledgment of Joes point that this is not a forum I reword my sentence as such

          “some people in the comments section of Joe Sawards F1 blog think it’s a real issue”

          Apologies to everyone for my incorrect terminology in referring to this or a previous comments section as a forum, and for any other times I have done so.

          If there is a more appropriate term to be used I am happy to use it. If there is a function to edit my posts I would happily correct my incorrect terminology in regard to the use of forum.

          Thanks for clearing that up for me Joe.

    2. Dear Joe, all
      There is something so delightfully ’21st century absurdity’ to Lego beating Ferrari. Like comparing diamonds and house paint, or some such ‘Well, I was going to buy a 458 AND a LaFerrari, BUT…..well, your brand stinks, and, I’m off to ToysRUs for a big gorge on Lego. Gonna build myself a Nordschleife!!’ or some such.
      Maybe Uncle Ron could approach Lego for a bit of sponsorship:-)
      Seriously, though… It is interesting to note that Ferrari has dropped down the rankings. The performance of the F1 team makes sense (especially if you add the game of musical chairs that constitutes employment at La Scuderia), but, the other factor, the proposal by Sergio Marchionne about increasing volumes- it hasn’t happened yet, and, already it is damaging the brand. It will be interesting to see if its implementation will cause a further plummet. Luca DM must feel vindicated!!!
      Sergio has stated that his big goal is to get FCA production numbers for FCA up around the VW-Audi mark (roughly double). Without mentioning such innovations as the introduction of build quality to the lower end of the product range:-) Should make fun viewing, across however long Sergio lasts at the helm.
      But, back to Ferrari- I am sure that the problem is only temporary, and, that the brand will ascend unto the heights to which it considers itself entitled- after all, they now have Marlboro Man at the helm!!!!
      Funny, how VW-Audi are doing so well, without dropping a cent into the bottomless pit of F1!!!!
      Cheers
      MarkR

        1. “The race” being the 24hr du Mans?

          I guess their argument is that they are winning it over and over again, but with different drivetrain technology. First petrol, then diesel, then smaller diesel, then diesel-hybrid-quattro, and then perhaps V4 turbo petrol-hybrid (in the 919).

          They can argue that this is refining and evolving their technology, which they can claim to apply to their road cars.

          Whether or not this technological development is truly being achieved through the LMP programme is besides the point, they can bill it as such in their advertising and it contributes to “Vorsprung durch Technik”.

          Just at Mercedes, Renault Ferrari and Honda would argue that F1 improves their drivetrain technology, but the link is more tenuous, less demonstrable.

          On one side we have the above, and on the LMP side we have Audi, Porsche, Toyota, Nissan, with Honda on an LMP2 programme and Ford interested in some kind of programme. Yes the audience is smaller, but so are the costs. Just as Ford, Hyundai, VW and Toyota all see benefit in WRC.

          I would guess you may disagree, but one of my concerns is the way that F1 has divorced itself from the rest of Motorsport over the 30-odd years I’ve been watching it or been involved. The industries and audiences have split. I’d guess that the majority of F1 fans in the UK would know less about F3 than they would know (at a guess, and for an example) about the football premier league.

          F1 is indeed the big prize, but does it to be at the expense of other forms of motorsport? F1 is big enough and strong enough not to feel threatened in any way by WEC or WRC, surely?

    3. Madness indeed, Guitarslinger. Who was it that said the art of politics was persuading people to want what it suits you to let them have?

  31. There’s nothing wrong with the sport except that it’s BORING and ARTIFICIAL like never before…

    What once was a great performance sprint race has become a lifeless tire management exercise and the daring and calculated moves of yore “evolved” to a mere press of a button down the straight…

    Nothing wrong indeed, all we need is marketing to convinces otherwise.

  32. As a formula 1 fan since the 60’s and having been to the “Bog” at Watkins Glen, I think I have seen the evolution of F1 for a lot of years, including live races. The racing was not too bad last year, after a long period when Red Bull dominated and prior to that Ferrari. However, the cars are all the same.With the rules demanding that motors be one way only, wings at certain heights, etc., you can’t tell a McLaren from a Red Bull except for color.

    What needs to happen, at least in my view, is that F1 needs to say that the motors are 1.5 liter engines with a hybrid energy recovery, the chassis needs to be X cm long and y cm wide and weigh z kilograms and use only 100 kilograms of fuel. Everything else is free. Want to run 6 wheels, no front wing or even a 4 wheel drive system, fine. That would allow the smaller teams to innovate and perhaps catch up to the big teams who would probably be more conservative.

    Heck, why not go all the way and talk about ground effects, blown diffusers, everything. Have to say that will bring people back, at least in my view…

  33. Wonderful piece Joe … It would help if the FIA showed some real backbone for a change rather than appearing like an inocent bystander ..
    Max Mosley all is forgiven ….

    1. Why? Surely a driver’s helmet only has value if it remains the same. Otherwise it is not his calling card and has no value.

      1. If only the car’s liveries were both team- and driver-distinctive those helmets would be a non-issue.

        Unfortunately, most of the teams do not appear to be able to afford professional graphic designers.

        Sign-of-the-times?

      2. Oh, there I was thinking it was self explanatory….?
        OK, it would be to show Bernie / FIA at all, what they think of the stupid rule !
        (Alas the drivers probably could not agreee on time of day…)
        Regards,
        Martin

  34. Some words in regard to pay to view F1.

    Some will create a myth that we have been freeloading on the sport. That we have been getting something for nothing, and that it’s only right that we now need to start paying our way. They will say that F1’s increasing costs require new revenue raising methods. It’s tosh – I’d use stronger language in a private discussion. These are rich players, rich drivers, rich teams. They are rich because we made them rich, as viewers, as followers, as ticket holders, merch purchasers, as unsung promoters spreading the gospel of F1 as the must see premier motor racing league.

    Some will argue Bernie made the teams rich – but without an audience, without the millions of us that have religiously followed, watched and discussed Formula 1, Bernie had no lever with which to ask for the billions he was given for the commercial rights. It’s the fans that are the commodity that makes the money in F1. The sport itself exists only as a vision in our eyes. Without our eyes it has NO commercial value. Don’t ever underestimate that. I don’t care what any advertising or marketing guru would say in response to that – but without the fans the sport is nothing, and this holds true for modern Formula 1 perhaps more than any sport.

    I have a lot of sympathy for teams such as Marussia and Caterham, particularly their hardworking employees, many of whom have been, or potentially will be, left with nothing. These are real people with real needs.The people that get hurt when a team goes down aren’t millionaires, nothing like it has anyone seen Fernandes out with the begging bowl?. However, the underlying reality is that these are sports teams with mega million dollar budgets, even at the lowest end of the grid. Did I read a few posts ago that McLaren are talking $350mill budget for a year. People were outraged when Toyota were spending $400, are we back to those days already, of course not, we never left. These are obscene amounts of money – as good as some of us think the spectacle is it should never costs the amounts that F1 costs. Surely we can provide the same level of spectacle with a fraction of the cost.

    The only reason these budgets have to be so big is because the teams refuse to commit to capping. The big teams don’t want to embrace a system where they can’t use their increased resources to out spend – ie buy – their way to victory over lesser resourced teams. Plus none of the teams really trust each other to stick to a budget cap. They expect each other to cheat and lie in a capping system in order to outspend behind the scenes. The main reason that this is such an issue is that enough of the players concerned know they would steal an advantage if they thought they could get away with it. Maybe not in the way we saw in 2008, but there are many ways to steal advantage that don’t involve rigging accidents in races. I’m shocked that the F1 world wasn’t more shocked by those revelations. They made/make less noise than drug cheats in world cycling. There are perhaps concerning reasons for this.

    A cynic might say that we have a sport contested by teams who would cheat each other if they could get away with it, competing for a trophy that can often be won through purchasing power. It’s not true, as Toyota proved for many years, but romantic stories such as Brawn winning on next to no budget don’t hold up under examination. It is fair to say though that with very few exceptions, the teams that consistently win F1 championships are amongst the bigger budgeted teams, and I think the idea of “buying” your way to the title has an element of truth in it. It can be applied to many sports, but some of those sports have budget caps so spending your way to win is a result of better spending, not more spending.

    Teams, drivers, owners, employees, promoters, sponsors, commercial rights holders, all deserve to benefit and reap the rewards of their risk and investment. Greater rewards to the greater or smarter investors, to the best drivers and designers, to the canny promotor(s), all these things are fair – I have no quarrel with these. Without pay per view all these things exist in quantifiable bounty. With a fairer distribution of existing/future revenues all these things exist in greater harmony. With costs capping the financial rewards to all could be greater than they currently are. If the revenue doesn’t shrink, but the costs fall, teams could put excess revenues away for lesser years, or other projects, or possibly in a fund or locked deposit to pay out employee entitlements in the unfortunate situation a team does collapse.

    1. Well said Adam. It has been amazing to me to see the trivialization of the fan that has gone on in the last (unknown) years. I understand that CVC makes their profit from the revenues from pay TV, track fees, and track advertising, but for CVC to not understand that in the end it is, actually and really, the fans who will pay for the show, and keep the show going really makes me furious. Who are these people? What do they expect? Constant money?

      I guess this is the case, but they have to provide something for the money transferred to them. This must end. Unfortunately, people and businesses like Joe are the first to feel the effects. I subscribed to GP+ for the last two years, but decided not to renew when I saw the direction F1 was taking. I refuse to watch the races live and will download, via Torrent, the races and watch them in MY time frame, with the ability to have a beer while watching the race.

      In the US of A where I live the European races are on at 5:00 am. I’ve been struggling to watch things live, but this year I give up. No more. I will steal the broadcast from Sky and watch it when I wish to via torrent postings. You guys (FOM/CVC) have had multiple chances to gather audiences, engage the fans, and generate a revenue stream but you have refused to do so. So be it. I will not pay the US cable fees to watch F1. I will steal content and damn you for making it so hard to be a fan. Why the fu*k do you delete all the youtube.com video? Are you crazy. Sure looks like it to me.

      You are stupid, arrogant, and unreachable. What the f*ck is wrong with you? At least respond in some way to all the fans trying to be fans. We WANT you to succeed. We love the sport. We are your audience, for God’s sake. What is wrong with you?

    2. You’d hardly see Tony out there with the begging bowl…..
      He’s been on twatter this week boasting of how he has about one billion in cash at the ready – no currency mentioned.
      He should hold on to it, will be needed to compensate his ‘guests’…..

      1. Absolutely. Not sure if my wording conveyed that I was saying we don’t see Fernandes suffering despite the team going down. My intention was to say the big players, team owners always, appear to walk away pretty unscathed these days. I know it’s a generalisation that is possibly unfair to some. I look at Williams in particular and see a team that was built from a humble start and doubt Frank would let the team fold whilst he still money to throw into it, so I’m not pointing the finger at everyone. Sorry I’ve got so cynical lately.

        It’s a sickening attitude the tweet you refer to, how can people be so arrogant.

    3. I would pretty much agree, Adam. I got to the point of thinking that F1 is the survival of the fittest, the law of the jungle and dog eat dog to trot out a few chiches. Instead of that ‘Just Drive’ song that Sky use, Coolio’s Gansta’s Paradise would be more appropriate so I had a go at some revised lyrics though its a work in progress….

      “Gangsta’s Paradise”

      As I walk through the valley of the bankrupt F1 teams
      I take a look at my life and realize I’ve been mean
      But I ain’t never shafted teams that didn’t deserve it
      I’ve got plenty of dosh but help them that’s unheard of
      Italian guys I give them extra money keep ’em sweet
      the others dont like it much but s*** they can eat
      in any case they’re fighting ‘mongst themselves half the time
      They’re partly doin’ my job so I win and all’s fine
      ‘Cos I’ve been wheelin and dealin so long,
      That even CVC thinks my mind is gone

      Been spending most our lives, living in the grandprix paradise
      Keep changin’ rules and don’t play nice living in the grandprix paradise

      Run your 2014 chassis only over our dead bodies
      think the FIA will help you – you gotta be joking…Fool !
      People come and say they cant afford to wach the races
      I’m not interested in fans if they ain’t got Rolexes
      Got my homies on the strategy group they all do what I say
      if they know what is good for they won’t naysay
      I’m 83 now, but will I live to see 84
      The way things are going I think I’m immortal
      Some jokers thought they’d get me in the courts last year
      But my hundred million buyoff shows that no one do I fear

      Been spending most our lives, living in the grandprix paradise
      Keep changin’ rules and don’t play nice living in the grandprix paradise

      1. That’s really well done. Great work.
        If you aren’t writing songs, you should be.
        A much needed touch of laughter, thank you.

  35. F1 and Pay TV is like a set of slick tyres. Sure – you can grab all of the performance / money in the short-term, but it’ll soon become apparent that you are stuffed.

    I love and am obsessed with F1 – but even with that, I can see that the product on TV isn’t good enough for people to pay for it. It’s a similar problem that universities now have in the UK – they saw an opportunity to make a massive profit by charging students £9,000 a year… but then funnily enough…. the lazy/minimal approach to teaching within the university that has gone on for 20 years, is no longer acceptable to the students!

    Those figures of an F1 race being the most watched event behind the Olympics and the World Cup have only occurred because it was previously free to watch on TV.

  36. I wonder how much extra teams would be making if F1 ran their merchandising properly. F1 is way behind V8 supercars (Have a look in Melbourne how many of the crowd wear V8 team gear compared to F1 gear). You would think F1 would be looking at NASCAR and see how much their sport makes off merchandising.

  37. Taking the findings of the brand experts one step further, the most powerful branded object in the world must be a Lego Ferrari?

  38. There’s probably too much focus on the “entertainment” aspect of F1 at the moment. I was drawn to F1 as an 11-year-old during the 1993 season by the high-tech and the strategy. I still remember being enthralled watching the San Marino GP of that season that someone had put on in the background – I’m sure loads of other F1 fans have similar tales. I think there are some media commentators and people involved in F1 who are acting very patronising towards young people by thinking they will only be attracted to the sport if it turns itself into some sort of dumbed-down WWE on wheels.

    As Joe keeps saying, there’s nothing wrong with the current product, it’s just being marketed wrong – infact the new rules fit the high-tech nature perfectly. There is so much sport to choose from nowadays and F1 has a particular appeal, there’s no point trying to compete with different sports that offer instant gratification.

    I do think there is too much focus on the shape and sound of the cars, when there ought to be more focus on the drivers and figuring some sort of way of allowing them to show their personalities more without being hamstrung by corporate PR. Thinking back to when I started watching F1, the personalities were as much of a draw as the cars – that season you had people like Prost, Senna, Berger, Alesi and Eddie Irvine.

    There’s really not that much wrong with F1: we’ve just had a season with some classic racing all through the pack and we’re probably in the middle of a golden age for drivers. It just needs some better management and to somehow rid itself of the greed that is infesting both F1 and every other popular sport.

  39. Never has the old maxim of ‘the right crowd and no crowding’ seemed so apt to F1 as it does these days. Hidden behind TV catwalks from the next generation of fans. Priced beyond anyone not prepared to spend the price of a family holiday at the circuits. Fans scorned by it’s promoter if they aren’t in the target market for Rolexes. And, off the back of one of the most exciting seasons (both in terms of racing and the technology involved) in living memory, all the team’s have talked about is changing the cars for the sack of excitement (yet they seem unable to come up with an exciting livery between them!).
    On the subject of computer games, aren’t developers very constrained by FOM as to what they can do? For example, they aren’t allowed to show cars flip or suffer extreme damage (and, if the GTA franchise has taught us one thing, it’s that gamers like ‘extreme damage’!). Someone else made the point that, when F1 cars appear in other games (like Gran Turismo for instance), you realise just how much more extreme and hard to handle they are compared to even the superist of supercars!

    1. Well said, and I agree entirely Robert.

      Re Gran Turismo and F1. Yeh, they are quick, but I don’t think if they are as quick as the Newey Fantasy Concept Cars.

      The F1’s, though very quick are still extremely drivable though. It’s a different world as far as braking points and cornering speeds. Having said that all the guys I race with are using force feedback wheels and pedal sets, G25, and G27’s. Such a satisfying rush though, for something that is based around sitting in a stationary seat.

      The beauty of it is that it’s the only and best way to get any idea how quick an F1 car is compared to anything else unless you get to try it in real life. Nothing else can give you that kind of comparison, aside from the real thing. Even then the overwhelming majority of us could not physically withstand more than a lap or 2 in an F1 car, especially at competitive speeds, to make such a real world assessment.

      It is true though that it’s something you have to be patient with and dedicate time to – much like being an F1 fan. So on that basis it is a particular market within the F1 market. F1 could do more though to grab viewers from the game racing market – not everyone that sim races watches F1.

      There are also other ways that F1, it’s drivers, teams, and rich history could feature in games without requiring a player to dedicate time to mastering throttle/brake/steering input. A team management strategy game could be built to satisfy the casual gamer up to the hard core accounting types. Even design your own livery apps for your fave team or drivers could still push the F1 brand. F1 quiz app to play with your friends or against others online. I’m stopping there, but there’s plenty more they could be doing.

      1. Thank you. And, yes, so agree… F1 dot com could be running ‘name the circuit’, ‘ name the car’, ‘name the helmet’ (maybe not the last one!) quizzes to engage fans. Hear those word: “Engage the fans”, ie, not fleece fans the guts of thirty quid for live timing, for instance.
        And, yes, the F1 cars in non F1 games are ‘easy to drive’ in that they go exactly where you point ’em, but they are so much faster than everything else through corners! As I get older I find virtual touring cars much easier!

        1. I don’t think F1 are easy to drive in Gran Turismo, they take practice. Personally I prefer to race using rFactor on the PC, and again, the F1s are far from easy to drive, but with practice they are race able. Gran Turismo just has the advantage of being quick and accessible for a casual romp.

          I’ve been driving/racing sims for close to 20 years. I and my friends go for as much realism as we can with the settings, whilst acknowledging that realism only exists with the real cars in the real world. In some cases we are probably making it harder than we should as we disallow traction control even when it was permissible for a certain season. Sometimes I think there is a reasonable trade off between real world g forces and the lack of physical feedback from not being a real car.

          I’m very average at it all compared to a lot of sim racers, but having put so much time into I guess I’m a lot better than the casual gamer. So, when I say the sim f1s are drive able it’s only because I’ve put too many hours into it over the last two decades.

  40. Joe, I agree, the f1 product is great. But can it survive. F1 has a management issue – and something’s needs to be done quickly…

    the f1 I grew up on 1980s/90s was interwoven with tobacco sponsorship. f1 was synonymous with Marlboro, Gitanes, West, Rothmans, Camel, Mild Seven, John Player Special, Benson & Hedges etc the list goes on. A developing f1 was hungry, and tobacco firms fed that hunger. Indeed tobacco chiefs ruled the paddock and together with Bernie shaped modern f1 – a merky f1, not a transparent and inspirational f1.

    I fear that despite f1 technology moving on considerably over the last 30+ years, f1 management has not. Dark corners and shady deals still exist, with characters serving self-interest and not the fans. It’s like the tobacco chiefs never left.

    Joe, how many tobacco chiefs like Arrivebene are still in f1? How much influence do they still have? Has Bernie’s management style moved on since the 90s? can the teams viably appoint a new management firm and start a new series?

    The 21st Century wants racing, but something more purest, more credible.

    1. Is that any reference to the differing sugar cane, or even original ingredients, rpaco?

      If you caught the trivia, of Sean Penn asking about why the (maybe he didn’t actually know) nominee who took the Best Director got a green card, I guess you can say the north and south still have some issues to work out. You see this most in the quickest market to realize: advertising and television. There is so much Spanish language content and market now, it is as much as half the business in lower states. I think there’s some very important integrating to be done, and I’m not certain what Obama did is not just a belated band aid. But at least it kinda recognized the problem. I haven American friends who dent there huge Hispanic market there, above fifty percent in many areas, who don’t want to look at the numbers. I think it’s been a hidden market until now only prominent in how the critical clue was found because of the gardener’s memory in John Huston’s tide pool…*

      *Chinatown, 1974, iirc it was a Mexican gardener who let it slip.. that movie was all about institutionalized oppression of entire classes of people, even the little twists and turns…

      People always liked their soda pop, Rpaco. My cousin was incredibly dismissive of the “sugar water” he made his fortune on, sold a bottler near Halifax to Coca Cola Enterprises after the war, for stock, and moved to Atlanta… Sugar Water…. I remember also very well, a interview of who was then the outpost of Saatchi as it was then, when the Beirut strife was almost calming down, and him laughing at the Fortune correspondent, “all you can sell is chocolate and weed, and only chocolate has brands!”. People in crisis turn to quick easy hits, just look at the check out counter of any place these days, it’s a sweet shop. My dear only all I have mumsie gets actually bedazzled sometimes, and drifts into her wartime childhood, mesmerized by all the offers, and I admit they are inexpensive, and I then feel a total heel for dragging her away, only buying one or three things… that’s how powerful advertising is, to a old little girl who most assuredly knows so much better, she is still programmed to gasp at the pretty things, and the delight therein, and I then have to overcome my revulsion at the effects and hold her like a little girl and engage with her, because I know she’s remembering such a difficult, wholly other time… advertising… hmmm.. some say I’m not in it for obvious reasons, but I think it needs to be a better understood part of our daily lives because it is so much about need and want being mixed too often the wrong way…

  41. Maybe a more apt comparison for a videogame would be the “Madden NFL” games here in the States. Hugely popular. Speculation as to who will be on the cover. Why can’t something as popular as F1 match “Madden NFL” worldwide? The Codemasters game usually comes out mid season, EA Sports ain’t that dumb. The F1 cars and tracks on iracing are pretty paltry too.
    NASCAR also gets a jump on F1 by having a champion like Jeff Gordon announce the upcoming season will be his last full time. So everyplace that he races in already has a storyline for a media-savvy racer. It is also announced that in 2016 his seat will be filled by a talented personal kid named Chase Elliott, whose father Bill was a popular champion. Granted F1 doesn’t have anyone in this position and won’t for a few years. But NASCAR does know how to work with teams.

  42. Hi Joe, hope you’re well, whenever you come back to here, thanks as always for making this place happen.

    I start to loom about the web, the intarweb of whavever, when you’re gone, and I recently came across something that worries me, that may have a tangential affect on F1:

    In the US of A, there seems to be a highly public blogging warm at the least, going on about weight issues, fatty versus stick insect types.

    What I have seen is so caustic, that any sport that involves squeezing diminutive but super specimens of humanity into a wonderful auto rocket ship, is gonna have a real hard time getting sponsorship.

    Why?

    I think big brands there are actually afraid of “Fatso backlash”, or even getting close to this debate by any association.

    I already said too much, the only thing that gets to me is how people turn such issues into personal polemic and so much worse, and I have no real words to describe what I came across, recently.

    This little surfing of mine is part of a occasional effort to find out what is the manor consumer trends along the lines of at least trying, as a brit, to not underestimate the Oprah crowd, or whoever is next up as a influencer of mostly well heeled, too much disposable income versus ability to intelligently employ that income, demographic.

    Man, it is very very scary stuff, which I read.

    Keyword: “thin privilege”.

    Yeah, that is the scary one.

    I can see the beginning of sensible criticism, I mean I am thin and I hate squeezing through tiny flats in London where the designers only cared for fitting īn another bedroom, and then only one that can fit half a bed anyhow, man, I like scale and size, and personally though my family is mainly small, it is athletic enough and comprises some big boys and gals. But none I know of who bounce the sofa when they sit.

    Ditch this comment, by any means, Joe it is a load of rot I’m on about anyhow, not fit for good debate among sensible people.

    But dammit, doggone it, I am sure I could put a bet on the fat that size issues with potential viewers place formula one right out of contention whilst maybe NASCAR still has a few spare gallons to add to that bucket seat.

    Is that not frightening.

    I mean, we never speak much of the midgets who are professional jockeys.

    But it is true, that F1 drivers are small guys, elegant, petite, not threatening hulks anyhow.

    And maybe that image could be used more positively, in pressers form the female reading world out there, in Sunday magazines? “Do you like a smaller faster guy?” Seriously, that is the sort of puff needed to get people, families, out there, who have no other experience of this racing, to talk about your drivers like we have. And they’re a nice looking lot, to be direct about it, no ugly mugs screaming out or the lineup, not now or for a while anyhow. If you want to argue, drum that up in a housewife’s weekly magazine, where it will get some kids asking “what’s F1 mommy?”!!

    So, anyhow, health and weight are a massive, sorry, thing, in the USA.

    Why hasn’t that got some enterprising PR onto all the magazines possible, leading up to Austin?

    Asking things like, are “All Murican” drivers healthier or fatter? Fitter or stronger? Have to drive wimp care or Real Men’s Motors?

    Hype it up, definitely hype it up,

    Say you’re a little boy, well if your mom recognizes one of these foreign drivers, that helps your argument for extra pocket money or even a race visit, doesn’t it?

    I know, F1 will never have that appeal until you see F1 looking cars about every small town, and that’ll not happen, compared anyhow to a Chevy or whichever, but dangit you have to try to compete a bit..

    Maybe I am all up the wrong tree here, but I see such a strong, vocal, vehement, actually disturbing, lobby among the self entitled bigger people of america, that I believe sponsors may actually actively try not to offend them, poor bless their cotton socks.

    I have a passion about this idea, because it is a kind of self censorship, which is the very worst kind of being silenced, and leads to the debate never happening. I guess my positive hope is that someone promoting F1 across the pond, might be somehow nudged by this comment, into asking some questions, as prejudices are built out of this kind of thing, too often.

  43. Sorry, Joe, I shan’t look back, this is a entirely personal thought I of coure don’t mind if public, but I miss my eighty four year old mumsie even when she isn’t in the same room as me, any more. She’s all I got, and I’m all she has, too. I thought often, that I would wish to have siblings, with whom to bear these parts of life, but I think it actually amplifies, in a certain way, because you have so many more views of who you no longer have, and so many more stories of the good interventions and the better misunderstandings and the plain simple joys of just recognizing who you are as a family, who you love, and who is around you being bound to you, forever, howsoever you pass your lives. And I never had all of that, but I know it not by a kind of ungrateful bitterness or anything lime that of not having, but of a wish that some things, some experiences in my life had been multiplied by having siblings or closer family, and not been as we always were, just a little but much isolated. So, instead of thinking any acquaintance of mine is the less suffering, because they have family around them, I actually think it is the more difficult, somehow, because there are so many memories to reconcile, and so many differences of opinion, even, which become accentuated for simple reasons each is different to another. As I am different to my step siblings, who simply never will engage with me and hold me out as some pariah, even since I was a clearly innocent age, to protect them from differing ideas as to our troubled and talented father, their mother I know now is the more buried by their omega to their own suffering, which I hate, and my own mother, her successor, is pained to suffer much unfairness as a result. But that is mine, as they are, and they are not a family who tried to be one, nor ever could I try myself to make that happen. Instead I and mumsie were made convenient scale goats, in some perpetuation of the abuse which upset it all. I think all that just stopped, finally, I really do, though it may squeal some brake pads, yet. What I am trying to say is that nobody is ever the less missed, and how we all feel a loss, is such a communal yet private thing, it can itself cause pain. But I am not certain people deliberately cause pain. I do not think so lowly of human kind, before we are elevated to mankind, if we do well. It is not a good thing, to be a executor. If you are not, you can remove any one for any reason, without reason, by simple application. I say that because foreknowledge of that would have saved me and a close friend each of us a inheritance that mattered more than the fortune. Being executor is not good, either, just sadly too many times I hear those appointed wrongly argue silly things, and it is better to never claim it is cheaper to not hire a independent. Definitely never so with any deceased who wrote a lot, and all the consequent attachments to emotion or unknown emotion that having a lot of personal writing involves. My father’s writing was taken so i’d not see it, a breach that its impossible to explain how it caused so much. Spiritual writings, poems of devotion, prayers of a godless man, as he felt himself, but he was not without faith, never. Put such worries of estate far from upset family, is my only advice, and try to make all stand back, if there is a body of important work, which I imagine there to exist. I should have so liked it, if my father had met you, as opposed to your father whom I think he would have categorized as a man to be challenged as to his faith, I think my dad would have focused on you like some might to a hopeful material forma convert! Such conversations I like to think would not have taken away any good from life, and encouraged better to be. Scrap this, if too personal, Joe, it’s a late thought, about all too much. I touch on these subjects maybe because I want to say I can understand from other ideas why you might fight and fight with this blog, as you do. It feels always to me to be a familiar quest, one so private and yet so public, so easily read as bloody minded but not at all meant as such, so easily distracted by pettiness of the way things work, but enraged to act to counter pettiness itself, yes, enraged, there is that upset also. But I like it that to me you are my rational mad man, set against the stupidities. I also know some arbitrary arguments upon which u and I might depart! Even so severe, aacaouch! But they are quite technical ones as I am momentarily incapacitated by a techaa spoiltion form evenn witing..

  44. I simply couldn’t continue to type, into the above comment, I believe simply there to be a programming deficiency… but then these things wee not meant for assays, even ones of devotion. I wish I could explain better, Joe, how your blog always felt from the beginning, so familiar to me, because it comes from such a personal fight to understand and do the better in life, which I recognize from my so very confusing dad, who set about I think simply trying to use his reaming years to explain to me, a little last boy, given to his then 43yr old wife, when. He was 67… he tried to explain to me everything which he truly believed, and explain religion as he knew it, and loved to “poach” preachers and bring them in to our home, for “examination”… which is why I say I wish more he had met you, because he’d have then been more interested in your sporting life! But I guess I grew up with it all being a devotion, and nothing else was good enough. If you did, you cared, if you cared you lived, I don’t think that was articulated, but it just was, a constant emotion Motion e Motion moving out of, moving on, moving in life and effort and care. I don’t think I back project many memories, but I know my step siblings were truly badly hurt without him, they depended on him. Whereas, I think our dad gave to me, simply because he could, the time he had to teach me better how to survive. With them, I think they only missed his intensity, and were ruined too, by his violence. That said, my step brother blurted out to mumsie, that she was probably treated worse, and I think that was the case, in the end. The first, took her life from us all. I wish I knew what it was to have siblings, Joe, or to understand someone else so close. What is shared is also amplified, made stronger, that is the important thing I learned from figuring out who my mom and I are to eachother. I think you’ve power, Joe. I mean a serious personal power. Which can also be misdirected. But you have this power anyhow to use in this world, and make effects as much as you intend to do. I think you may not have felt you had both the ambition and the ability yet to do all you want, but that can come. I think you will learn that there is not always a feeling of being a imposter when you are in fact in the temple and telling it how, how the word is. It is not a question of making them believe you, it is only a question of you believing of yourself, that you do have the power to change others’ lives, how they feel, how they act for the better. I think all of life is only ever a challenge of our faith, you merely have to recognize what kind or level or faith is being questioned at each moment. Sometimes the world doesn’t offer enough challenge, and maybe you will feel you do not have enough to simply offer, to this world. In such moments, do not worry, simply be safe and reflect that those are the moments in which you can change how others seem you, your speech and ideas and your values. They are waiting, only n you finding a better way to speak to them. All prejudices want to be undone, everyone wants to live in a better way, but it is actually difficult to find out how to persuade people who are too accustomed to certain kinds of direct argument. In these moments, think somehow how you can speak differently to who also suffers from their prejudice and stuck ways. In these moments you need to be safest within yourself, first of all, and then speak out. Listen then the most you can, because in those quiet times, you can hear what others are really worried about, which they do not let on about consciously, but they will in fact speak more if you approach them confidently, but your confidence is paramount, here, to hear others’ woes and fears and not one of us can solve each others woes, but we can speak with direction, towards what is good, and speak only of what is positive and can be felt in this moment, and taken to the next person they speak to, all new, but all from the oldest and best of hearts, just direct them, Joe, it takes all of you I know, but you do because you can, and I just wanted to say hello along the way.

  45. I’ve cashed in all my chips, if any of my comments make the printed page, above. I speak of devotions and even a kind of commandment to make the right thing happen, in life, which I think this blog is about, and why it has such a effect, even when it is not merely a repository of sharpest intellect cutting what we have to the bone. No, this place is not about cutting anything to the bone, nor even of cutting anything. I always felt in Joe’s writing something I only now realize is pretty much the same energy as my own dad had, of full n letting rip about what he cared for, which with my dad was only ever really about his sport, Squash Rackets, and his work in mortgage finance was much clouded by politics, but he brought me up with a passion for sporting enterprise, and even stories of the petty finances of local clubs and things that may have affected my appreciation for F1. I mean what I see here in what Joe writes, conforms in my view to a tradition that I understood because of my own dad, but not ever as solitary or singular to him, not ever unique, I was brought up to understand that sporting life and principles were as high as the gods, even whilst the gods may be occasionally wrong… There has always been a sensation I get, of something good prevailing here, despite whichever mishaps along the way, trivial things or blemishes at best so far as I ever saw: that it ends up OK, All Right, Done Good and Proper. I feel there’s a genuine flash back to values I only ever knew from who now would be a hundred and eight years of age, and who may have been exceptional even so, I felt drawn to this place, and I think I appreciate somehow certain things which are always unknown to me, of who Joe is for example, just because I sense something from the way he writes and speaks, and gets on with it. If all I say above is printed, I’m done “gushing” for this season. I mean I’m done trying to explain any more for now, how much it matters and i’d like to get into some nutty gritty yet. Because I think so much more can be done, with this blog, and Joe’s heart, when he can afford it to this sport. I really think a lot can be done, and I am pretty certain some things actually happen even recently because of what is said here, and if what I hope I see accurately is really the effect, I want this more almost than the next breath of air… This CAN be a powerful communication. I am absolutely sure of it, now. I was not very doubtful before. I want to find out how much more good this place can do. There is more than being the parlor games of any household, though I have to apologize for such a awful metaphor.. I mean I don’t want to be the conscience to anyone in writing, when there is a better thing to be suggested. And I don’t want at all to be the last vox pop stand on which to promulgate the simplest most basic of morals of sporting behavior, no matter how eloquently we may all speak here. No, there has to be more. I just hope I can be part of that debate, soon, positively, productively, here, and I may dream but if I do I dream this place can change what F1 is about. I think that that can work.

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