The wrong kind of VIPs

I don’t know about you folk, but I have absolutely zero interest in what Flavio Briatore says about Formula 1: not what he thinks is right, nor what he believes to be wrong. He was never a real fan of racing. He came to the sport for reasons that were never really obvious and found ways to make money, boost his profile and introduce methods and attitudes into F1 that the sport could happily have done without. I believed from the very beginning that he was always going to do something that would do the sport serious harm, and after near-misses in 1994 and again in 2007, he finally did exactly that with the Singapore Scandal of 2009.

The sport threw him out – and no one sensible wants him back. Yes, he helped a few careers, such as Fernando Alonso and Mark Webber, but generally when I look back I see nothing but a negative impact. His very presence made F1 look like the kind of place where extras from The Sopranos hung out, which was never the case, and is still not the case.

Yes, it is good to have characters for people to relate to, but Peter Perfect and Penelope Pitstop are better for the sport than Dick Dastardly, although I always enjoyed the Muttley character who laughed at Dick’s failures. We have plenty of great characters today: Toto and Niki, the hirsute Heathcliff down at Ferrari, FW and Ron, the slightly Bunterish Eric Boullier, the confused Mr Arai, Christian Horner, who always looks to me like a Conservative MP, and the evil Dr Marko at Red Bull. The passionate but blunt Franz Tost, the feisty Monisha at Sauber, cuddly Bob at Force India, and of course The Bernard. It’s a good cast and generally speaking they are benevolent individuals. They all have their own agendas and that creates stories, but sport is lucky that it does not have the real scandals one sees in other sports.

Having an Italian tinged with sleaze at the forefront added no real value, as far as I was concerned. The sport does need a bit more celebrity sparkle with beautiful people (yes even Twitter stars if necessary) but that is really not hard to do. A TV audience always attracts celebrities with something to sell. Watch any talk show and it’s obvious that the programme gets the reflected glory of the VIP and better viewing figures and the celeb gets the coverage for his or her new movie, book, stage show, adventure. Whatever. F1 has this bizarre attitude of refusing to tell the media which stars attend the races. So it ends up being a question of who you see and what you hear. How does that make sense? Surely it would be more logical for the teams and the Formula One group to organise photo shoots, TV opportunities and, most importantly, social media for the celebs who want the coverage. That’s the easiest way. F1 should go into an alliance with some big talent agency (or agencies) and brush up its image with some proper A-list stars, not the C-list types who hang around with the sleaze of the world.

232 thoughts on “The wrong kind of VIPs

  1. Flavio’s most memorable trait was the way he stuck his face in front of the camera after every Alonso victory so you’d think he drove the damn car.

  2. An ad hominem never reads well, even if the intention behind it has merit. Besides, much of what Flavio is currently saying makes complete sense.

    1. It’s not an ad hominem. It’s an article about two different things. 1) whether Briatore should be listened to, and 2) what F1 should do about celebrity.

      1. To me, it’s part of the show. We;ve had some characters in F1 through the years, like Walter Wolf, Jean-Pierre van Rossem or that Nigerian prince Arrows thought was going to save them. I’m not a fan of Flavio, but I also really don’t care if he’s around or not.

      2. I agree with you Joe. After the Singapore debacle where, let’s not forget, not only did the instruction to Piquet Jr create a result by cheating the sport, it also had the potential of risking the health and lives of not only the driver but also various innocent parties (marshalls and spectators).

        Mr Briatore shouldn’t be allowed near F1, as per the FIA sentence, even advising on how to ‘liven up’ the show. Surely there must be enough people in the sport, who care about F1 rather than self-promotion, who could offer good, creative ideas.

    2. It’s not an ad hominem attack at all. Joe’s not trying to counter a statement or argument made by Briatore by attacking Briatore’s character. It is Briatore’s very character that is being criticised – and I can tell you from painful personal experience that the criticism is fully deserved. I never saw Briatore do or say anything which wasn’t first and foremost self-serving, so his latest attention-seeking behaviour can be dismissed out of hand. Indeed, if Briatore ever said anything about F1 that sounded sensible, it would be on the stopped-clock principle…

      1. “Peter tabmow
        It’s not an ad hominem attack at all. ………….. It is Briatore’s very character that is being criticised”

        🙂

        1. The definition of an ad hominem attack is when you attempt to discredit what someone is saying by attacking their character. Joe argues that Briatore’s character is what made him a malign influence on F1, not the things he says.

    3. What’s the Latin translation for calling a spade a spade? Flav’s a disgraced hanger on at this point that deserves the drubbing Joe gives him.

          1. Do you really think Flávio had much to do with it?

            Sadly, I’ve always imagined that only someone a rung or so down the ladder would have been smart enough to think of it. I don’t think it would have worked on a track on which overtaking was possible, or without a fast but out of position car. And I don’t think Flávio was sufficiently tactical to see the opportunity. Not to say he may not have approved the plan in advance, admittedly.

  3. I agree with most of your points made, but it does frustrate me, while watching, that we get shots of X,Y and Z celebrity during a race. We always got shots from inside the McLaren garage of Mika’s wife, which was so very annoying during a race. The worst example of this, and forgive me for not knowing the precise names of the people involved, was last year I believe, when during the final moments of the indy 500, there was a split screen shot of the driver’s wives overshadowing what was going on on track. None of that in formula 1, please.
    We need the drivers to be stars, and have more access to them, obviously without disturbing their job too much, but they are the reason why we tune in, and go to the races.
    The glitz is there, but the marketing of it could be done much better. As you rightly point out, but it must not be about visiting celebs, it must be about the teams and the drivers.

    1. They use that split screen technique to add to the tnwion and emotion as two drivers compete for the win. You can’t see the stress on the drivers’ faces but you can on their wives’.

      I remember a similar thing when Hamilton wom the titile in 2008 and we had shots of his girl friend in the McLaren garage rejoicing compared to the shots of Massa’s father in the Ferrari garage going from elation to crushed. I think it can add to the show.

      As for Briatore, I always skip over any article with the heading containing “Briatore says…” I wish you couldublish your dossier on him, Joe.

    1. Of course he was. He was the boss of the team and if he did not know what was happening then he would have fired the people responsible and lived happily ever after… Think about it.

  4. The F1 circus needs its lions/elephants and it did have its clown of a driver..however the circus master needs to get people to “roll up roll up” to see it. Wimbledon puts its famous faces in the Royal box and the beeb take great pleasure from interviewing them all.
    If someone is famous who is there to promote their latest film/song/venture then F1 should help them to help its self.
    Characters sell, being positive sells.
    I am sure there is a way…

  5. Love the irony of this Pollyanna view of F1 emerging on the week Gribkowsky is released from jail. Corruption and cheating has tainted many sports – cycling, athletics, football and even tennis among them. To think that F1 is somehow immune because key players are “benevolent individuals” seems risible. It’s hard to think of a less transparent sport. I’m hoping the EU will be more motivated than the journalists inside the F1 bubble to ask some awkward questions.

    1. Well, Carlos, maybe you have heard about that hidden SW option in the Benetton cars that switched on traction control in 1994? And in 2007 Renault was investigated for spying in a case that seemed not all that different from what got McLaren into spy gate but in the end they were let off the hook.

    2. 1994 was the year of the ‘hidden menu 13’ option which was a menu for launchcontrol or was it tractioncontrol?
      2007 we had 2 spygates, but McLaren paid 100 million and Renault nothing.

    3. To add:
      1994 was also the year Jos got in a massive pitfire due to the fuel rig being modified to tank more than allowed…

    4. Ah, I recall now. Flav wasn’t working in a photocopier shop but a media copying place. How else did Renault end up with disks full of McLaren engineering drawings and data? I think the FIA found them guilty, but Renault and Flav got off with zero punishment. Unlike Ron and McLaren who got stuck for $100m despite rather less water tight evidence.

      Or something along those lines, anyway.

      1. @ carlos
        Ayrton Senna went to his grave convinced that Michael Schumacher’s Benetton B194 was using traction control and thus cheating.
        In Brazil, Senna confided with his close associates that he was suspicious of Schumacher’s Benetton, and that he felt the team was using some form of traction control which along with active suspension and ABS was banned for 1994.
        He became convinced of the use of traction control when after retiring from the Japanese Grand Prix he stood by the side of the track and heard the difference in engine sounds and characteristics between Schumacher’s car and his teammate Jos Verstappen’s supposedly similar Benetton B194.
        The FIA impounded computer control systems of Ferrari, McLaren and Benetton. When the inspectors got into the Benetton computers, they discovered a hidden programme, and it was dynamite: a programme called Launch Control, which allowed Schumacher to make perfect starts merely by flooring the throttle, the computer then taking over to ensure that the car reached the first corner with no wasteful wheelspin.”

        Legal in 1993 but outlawed by the new regulations, the programme was still there – although now it had been concealed. To find it you had to call up the software’s menu of programmes, scroll down beyond the bottom line, select an apparently blank line, press a secret key – and, hey presto, without anything showing on the screen, Launch Control was ready for action.
        Brawn’s claim that the system had not been used during the 1994 season could neither be proved nor disproved. The FIA’s decision to publicise their findings suggested that they had their suspicions. After all, if Launch Control was now redundant, why had it had been left sitting in the software?
        Because, the Benetton people said, the task of isolating and removing it was one of impossible complexity. The concealment, they added, was simply to prevent somebody switching it on by mistake
        Also that year, after an investigation the FIA revealed that the team had been using an illegal fuel valve, without a fuel filter, that pumped fuel into the car 12.5% faster than a normal, legal fuel valve that had a filter.

        This may have explained how Schumacher was able to leap frog Senna after a pitstop and take the lead at the season opening Brazilian GP. Upon which the Brazilian was forced to chase hard, but to no avail as he spun out in front of his home crowd.

        Verstappen spoke of his 1994 season with Benetton alongside Schumacher

        “I know what happened when we were together at Benetton. People think I’m looking for excuses but I know that his car was different from mine. I always thought it was impossible. I braked at the limit and took the corners as hard as possible, so how could Schumacher do it?”

        “There was something wrong. There were electronic driver aids. It was never mentioned, but I’m convinced and when I later asked Flavio Briatore he replied: Let’s not talk about it,” claimed Verstappen. “So I know enough now.”

          1. There was and maybe still is a pdf on the internet that is an account of a meeting held the night before one the “Benneton hearings” at the FIA. The meeting was between BE, MM and a very highly ranked QC who’s name was something like Carmen (but probably not). It was fascinating reading.

              1. IIRC it was written by George Carmen’s son to whom Carmen dictated it. It was freely available for some time. Again IIRC much of it was corroborated in the bio of The Bolt written by the newspaper man. I was about to say his name was Tom Bowler that that would be silly. Biggus Dickus perhaps?

  6. This is why a character like Lewis Hamilton is so good for any team. Whether or not you care for his cultural tastes he’s doing more to bring in a new audience than anyone else right now.

  7. I totally agree with that. I don’t remember if it was when he already was at Benetton or before (not the F1 tram, the company itself) but whe he started doing business in the States, he was forbidden the entry to the country for some years… So just starting from that, it’s not difficult to see the kind of chap he is…

  8. I disagree with you, as I see Flav as no worse than anyone else in the paddock.
    And if I use logic, I see that the F1 demo is gray haired white guys who don’t use social media and may not be long for the earth. Generally, that’s not considered a good group for A list movie stars to be marketing to. Maybe F1 could buy some A list stars, but I just don’t see a logical way to get them to appear for free to promote their projects to non-customers.

  9. Joe, I agree entirely with your comments, but his tedious and hardly insightful remarks reported on certain websites merely highlight the lack of news at the moment.

    Non-articles such as “so & so targets points” or “X team expects improvement this season”, are frankly pointless, but fill blank spaces on web pages. That’s why I read your blog instead.

    Similarly, people who were once involved in the sport, are often asked their dubious opinions on matters in which they no longer have any real knowledge, but they still obviously love to see their names in print.

    By the way, I attended the meeting at the Cass Business School last week and thought it was good value. The format could do with tightening up and more time given for questions, but overall it was very interesting to hear the views of yourself and the other speakers.

  10. Is Ron Dennis that copied car better? Is Nigel stepney better? Is Dany Bahar Better? Is crazy Mosley Better? Having a british tinged with sleaze at the forefront added is a real value? Com’on Mr.Sqward, do not use “italian” in your story, the darkside of motorsport is a british mafia, at least 80%. Briatore was not a sport man, sure. But some of his idea are discussed today as new proposal in the strategy meeting.
    Sorry, i forgot: can we discuss about the power unit rules that Ross Brown suggested to FIA just before his agreemment with Mercedes?

    1. Find out a little more about Briatore before looking only at his F1 activities. There are books out there in Italian

    2. If you recall Joe was never silent on Dany Bahar.

      The fact that Briatore’s ideas are being discussed is merely a sign that he still has friends in high places, not the wisdom of his ideas.

      If you’ve ever watched the documentary about his tenure as the owner of Queens Park Rangers Football Club, the kindest thing that could be said about him is that he is someone who rejoices in the appearance of stupidity.

  11. I think you’ve just helped me discover why I have always had an unreasonable dislike of Christian 🙂

    Claire Williams and Rob Smedley probably deserve a mention too.

      1. Perpetrated by Flav? Or by some British guy?
        II think Flav’s not smart enough, so that leaves some British guy IMO.

    1. In 2007, two months after McLaren were found guilty of espionage, Renault were found guilty of possessing 2006/2007 McLaren car documents. They were not penalized.

      Joe, the other day I was falling asleep, shot up like a dart and thought to myself “Nigel Stepney!”. A name I had not thought about in quite some time, and seems as if everyone has forgotten about him since he mysteriously died two years ago. Regarding his book Red Mist, it has an ISBN — was it ever released, and if not, do you think it will ever see the light of day? Something about his involvement and his eventual death seems strange. I am really curious to know more.

  12. Never mind that motley cast headed by ‘The Bernard’ –
    They’ve failed miserably to endear F1 to the USA . . .

    What the sport needs is ‘The Donald’ to bring them onside.

    1. Mr J, I think the reason that “The Bernard” has “failed miserably to endear F1 to the USA . . .” is that he doesn’t want to be there.

      In which case he’s succeeded….apart from COTA….but he’s working on that 😉

        1. So you work on the principle that the boss is not responsible for the actions of those under his orders. Not smart. That makes Hitler innocent, doesn’t it?

          1. Hitler gave orders for the crimes he committed.
            I’ve never heard anyone say Flav told them to create option 13 or spy on the competition. For that matter, as I recall Piquet Jr. said Symonds told him to crash, while Flav just sat by silently. Symonds is back at Williams and if that’s no problem for the paddock, then I don’t see how anyone could object to Flav.

              1. Not that I know for sure, but I’d wager because Flav is a realist and did what was best in the interest of his many subordinates at Enstone.
                He didn’t throw blame at anyone else still there, although I recall some harsh words towards Piquet Jr. He said things happened under his watch and he needed to take responsibility for them. He fell on his sword quite rightly.

                He also went to a French court and had his FIA punishment overturned. I believe he even won some money out of the case.

                Ron Dennis threw Dave Ryan under the bus before being forced to leave, and
                Ron’s back, so why not Flav?
                Pat Symonds is back, so why not Flav?
                Bernie’s back, after bribing his way out of bribery charges, so why not Flav?
                Vijay’s still there, So why not Flav?
                Sauber and Monisha are still there, so why not Flav?

                He’s no worse than the rest of the paddock. 😉

  13. Years ago, I (may have) read that Nelson Piquet (junior), who was managed by Flavio Briatore, was to pay him 20% of his income for the next twenty years. Is this true, Joe? Is the deal still valid? Did Alonso and Webber have to sign similar “deals.”

  14. Couldn’t agree more about Flavio Joe. As an Australian Formula 1 fanatic it has always been a sore point that Webber used him to get a foot hold in F1, but you can’t blame him for that. The manner with which Briatore only signed drivers to Renault provided that he became their manager, and received a cut of their income, was just disgraceful. This, from a bloke who only came into the sport because he was a mate of Rocco Benetton’s. The sport is indeed a better place without Briatore.

    1. Never understood why Renault accepted that. They would not tolerate an employee placing orders and then taking a cut from the supplier.

  15. agree with your view that we can do without the improper conduct of Flavs or anyone else who does, but I think it is not fair to brand him off as some form of mafia figure who meant nothing to the sport whilst calling the Bernard benevolent. Bernie also does not play by the rules, does not give damn about F1 if it does not mean him winning (i.e. making more money), but as he mostly sets them so it is never evident.

    1. I did not use the word mafia. Do not put words into my mouth. If you think BE does not care about F1, you are not well-informed.

            1. The problem in Europe today is that one cannot speak the truth without being accused of some form of stereotyping or profiling …. continue saying it as it is Joe

  16. Couldn’t agree more. why SSF1 insist on broadcasting ‘Legends of F1 – Flavio Briotore’ i don’t know..

  17. What I love about Mr Saward is that he doesn’t hold back!

    Keep up the honest commentary – someone needs to say the unsayable.

  18. It was so disappointing to read that Flavio (la lumaca) would not return to F1 even if he was asked……..

    1. Every sport uses celebrities as a cheap means of promotion especially to casual or “barely there” fans. I think it’s pretty healthy if employed wisely.

    1. A layer of good detergent first with a little time to soak and than a good hosing down. He basically needs to be taken to a coin operated d.i.y car wash, put Vijay in there with him, the good doctor could use a little degreasing of his own.

  19. Has one rattled ones cage this morning! Your article seems to be dragging the past up for no good reason. Or maybe there is a reason and you aren’t saying.

    1. I read something that Briatore said about modern F1 and I felt he should be despatched to the touchline. Simple.

      1. As I loudly declaimed at the time Mr. Mosley was too consumed by his mission of destroying Ron Dennis to be distracted by the “other” matter.

      2. > far worse than…

        Could you say a bit more?

        IIRC, a McLaren employee and a Ferrari employee conspired to pass telephone directory sized documents to each other -whilst in post-

        IIRC, the Renault thing was a case of an individual employee hired from another team turned up with a few files he’d copied onto a disk before he left.

        Doesn’t really seem in the same league to me; actually, I was surprised it didn’t happen a lot (although that guy at Renault was caught with documents he -didn’t actually understand-, which I did think was both overstepping the mark and made him look a bit of a twit, but that’s another story).

        Of course, the penalty on McLaren was formally for the flat denial it had taken place, not the crime. And I feel sorry for RD on that, because I’m convinced that he truly had no idea such a thing was happening. You argue above that the top man bears responsibility, though. Harsh in that case, no?

          1. I thought I’d made it clear that that was -not- my point. I raised that issue only because it was a factor in the FIA judgement.

            My question was, what it was in the Renault case that you consider (if I understand correctly) more serious than the McLaren one. I’d rather imagined that people moving from one team to another might often bring a few ‘notes’ with them; a live conspiracy by employees of separate teams to transfer files on an industrial scale (too many to photocopy by hand, they had to hand it over to a copy shop…) seemed to me to be a whole other thing. I’m genuinely curious to hear the explanation.

  20. Joe – I can’t help thinking you almost have a plot for your next book! All the cast of characters you mention above are invited to a weekend party on a mysterious island and one by one …

  21. First line of last paragraph: You can argue the sleaze part, but is it at all relevant that Flavio is Italian? Seems a bit gratuitous to me…

      1. You keep it next to your list of sleazy Indian businessmen I suppose?

        Your home, your prerogative, but your contemptuous stereotyping is rather crass…

      2. I agree with your entire essay accept your reference to a sleazy Italian. Further, your reply to redline’s post is unfortunate. And no, I’m not Italian.

        1. There are sleazy people in many nations. But some would argue that sleaze is institutionalised in Italy. Bunga bunga

          1. The trademark JS flippant response… maddening and amusing in equal measure, neatly deployed to sidestep an issue on which you are on sketchy ground 🙂

  22. Flav,,,,,, we’ve all seen the picture, he’s fallen on hard times since leaving F1. Poor guy can’t even afford proper underwear. Should we have a whip round?
    On a more serious note, when Bernie mooted him as some kind of social media tsar a couple of years ago I couldn’t possibly repeat here what I thought. Once again the hierarchy were and still are, completely out of touch with the new generation of fans. Even Flavour Flav of Public Enemy is too old for that kind of connections.
    Just look at the amount of celebrities paraded at the Super bowl on Sunday. Much as I hold that side of the sport, and the halftime show, in disdain, it has exposure for the game. The presence of Lewis Hamilton with his large following is good for the NFL. F1 could learn from that.

    1. I heard that someone locked up Flavour Flav in a cupboard when Obama was running for president. Perhaps F1 should introduce such system. More seriously, I’m amazed that someone out there chooses to publish any comment made by FB and not just thanking him for the comment with the promise that it will be stuck in a prominent spot on the fridge.

  23. I hold absolutely no brief for Flavio, but as I wrote at the time, it was a considerable managerial accomplishment to come from a background completely outside motor racing and win a World Championship in six years.

    1. Watch ‘The 4 Year Plan’, it’s probably the only chance you’ll ever get to see up close how Flavio operates.

      – You’ll struggle to understand how he ever achieved what he ‘achieved’, other than by nothing more than dumb luck.

  24. From my peripheral involvement as a sponsor way back in Trimoco BTCC days, The manufacturers (or their UK concessionaires) used to retain celebrities to appear at various functions such as dealer track days. I recall Derek Bell, Eric Carlsson, a notorious cricketer, a tennis star. They used to mingle and munch. Sign autographs for people who did not pretend it was beneath them to ask.
    Eric used to do demo drives of handling, then tyre and brake cutting on the Saab 900. (still the most comfortable car in history) The cricketer used to roll cars on the bends, (no name no pack drill) Derek just seemed a very calm very good bloke.
    In the tv grid walk performed by DC and MB celerities are occasionally caputured for a few words. Some are articulate and knowledgable and others are of the twittish type. A separate program could be made centring on the celeb and his/her connection to whatever team and lead into team people, Look at all the people that “the other fellow with a notebook” interviews after the race, (some being Joe) most of them are far more interesting than many drivers, whom we know are gagged, or team principles, who often say things for effect or tactically.

    Flav I always thought looked like a bully or a Bond villain.

    1. Ah! Trimoco BTCC…..when there was motor racing with racing saloons….and drivers won by racing, not by the now long time served Clelland Ricochet method! Boy do i miss real motorsport….well, i still get it from rallying but trackside is an entirely different story!

      1. It was James Weaver and arc enemy Frank Sytner’s duelling season, both in 635is and with huge tyre marks all down each side of both. Ironically a new BMW GB promotions manager put them together in the same team in a later year. But we were no longer sponsors by then.
        We used to get a nice line in tyre banging in F1 but now since you need an engraved invitation and a proper rsvp to pass. The skills required are inverse to the safety of the track now that there are huge run off areas and little attention to driving between the white lines one would think that overtaking would be constant but no, too much downforce! So they are apparently going to allow it to increase. Duh!

        1. I was a huge fan of James. Lovely bloke and great driver. There was even a bit of Silverstone known as Weaver’s Trench, as his rear wheel was the only thing that ever went there… Frank was a gutsy driver too. A little more prickly as a character…

          1. I was there the day the Weaver trench was made. Before they messed up Silverstone as a track. James was great, he taught me how to take Church flat. Went to America and ALMS, now retired.

          2. James’ team mate was Vince Woodman, a West Country racing Ford Dealer. Of repute from earlier years, but content a few places back.

  25. Joe – I quite agree with your view on Flavio but shouldn’t the same yardstick have been applied to Michael Schumacher who was the chief beneficiary of Flavios first scam in F1 in 1994 which you delicately refer to as a near miss …..but which was actually their first bulls eye together

      1. that’s what I like about your blog …. absolute clarity of thought tinged with humour …. especially liked the part about Billy bunter and Dr evil

          1. well let`s see, engine managed traction control, barge boards, double diffusers, merc`s latest engine. yet, because they attract extras from downtown abbey it`s all okay.

  26. There is a character in the 1970s miniseries “I, Claudius” who says what a civilization needs most is a good sense of smell. If I ever run into a website asking Mr Briatore for his advice, I’d go to another site and mentally note that one as to be avoided.

  27. Absent from the cast of characters Flav’s ostentatious disciple the good Dr.
    O.K, he’s hit a little turbulence at the moment, a lot actually since he’s grounded and a little short with the wages. Not without his own tinge, his supporters will be up in arms that he didn’t atleast warrant a dishonorable mention!

  28. Ha ha Joe , I’m never going to be able to see Christian Horner again without picturing him wearing a blue rosette. Sort of a slightly geeky version of Alan B’stard! *

    I completely agree with you regarding Signor Briatore. A quick glance at his resume on Wikipedia shows a consistent history of misdeeds and dishonesty. Honestly it’d have been amazing if he hadn’t proved crooked. He was just conforming to type.

    *(Anyone not familiar just Google Alan B’stard – The New Statesman).

  29. ” the slightly Bunterish Eric Boullier ”

    Eric has more than a hint of the ‘chef’ about him. Sometimes the cordon blue variety, but more often the sort of mobile beefburger type of chef you see haunting the tourist spots, with one eye looking out for the police.

    1. Eric emailed me to ask what Bunterish meant and so I explain it was a naughty round-faced schoolboy with glasses. he found it quite amusing

        1. This blog has a better class of reader. I dare say Christian will tell me off about the Conservative MP remark at some point. They all read it – or they have someone who does it for them!

  30. Joe has hit on a trueism: there are many more “characters” to find among the TPs than among the drivers.. Exceptions are Maldonado and of course the ever popular Kimi. And now we’ve lost Maldonado! I’m hoping and praying that the promising young Verstappen will grow into a character in due course.

  31. Last time I visited Enstone (related to my day job) I made a point of seeking out the 2008 Singapore winners trophies in the display cabinet and to my surprise both the drivers and constructors were there! Can’t believe a team found guilty of cheating still proudly display their trophies. Apart from that a lovely place to visit and I didn’t have the heart to question any of the nice people that remain.

    1. They had the fastest car that day. It proved it by winning the next race.

      Pity about that engine failure in quali.

  32. It’s nice to hear you say that F1 is not the kind of place where “extras from the Sopranos hang out”, because for years Flavio and other shady characters have had an outsized presence in the sport. As primarily a TV spectator, it is easy to think the entire paddock is filled with scum and villainy, even though I would think most of the circus is working too hard for shenanigans.

    On a side note, I’ve always wondered why Pat Symonds was forgiven, when guys like Dave Ryan, Coughlin and Stepney were never rehired by other teams.

    1. Generally someone with a big online presence who wouldn’t recognise a genuine star if they were walking their dog on the beach next to them.

      If you’re still confused, google #randomman

      1. Writing about the sport and winning races and championships are two different things. One is safe and relatively easy, the other takes guts and cunning.

        1. Go and look and see what you can find out about your beloved Flav. There’s plenty out there and more that is not. When you have done that, come back and have an opinion worth listening to. I have done it. I know.

  33. “Having an Italian tinged with sleaze at the forefront added no real value, as far as I was concerned.”

    Would a Brit tinged with sleaze have added real value?

    1. I’ve heard of many acts of kindness / benevolence by BCE from people who have worked, or are working inside F1. He doesn’t mention them himself, and probably doesn’t dwell on them, but they mean a lot to the people concerned.

  34. Great post Joe. Strange but, as bad as it was, it’s not the shenanigans of Singapore that took my breath away but, even after all these years, 1994 still grates. Over the years I’ve tried to convince myself that it was perhaps just my imagination. Then, I watch the recording of the start of the French GP of 1994 and all those nasty memories come flooding back. The only thing that gives me some comfort if the fact that Senna had ’em all ‘sussed’ out from Interlagos; the very start. He seemed to know what was happening. It’s just tragic that events unfolded as they did.

        1. Ok.. Joe saward, I think you know french so please read this article by Thibault Larue [link removed]
          “Ayrton Senna (…) était même venu à Viry-Châtillon pour demander à Renault de travailler sur un système identique, basé sur un programme électronique chargé sur la grille de départ et qui disparaissait, via une mémoire flash, une fois le contact coupé.” !!!!!
          ( rough translation: senna asked for an illegal electronic program which could being load when being on the start grid and disappear when the car was switched-off)
          Please don’t tell us that you didn’t know that !!!!
          Yes, your beloved Ayrton Senna was a big cheater. The only proofed cheater in this story.Not surprising nevertheless, we all know how dirty he was during all his career.
          So yes, the diva couldn’t stand being crushed and humiliated by a young unknown driver. He is the only respnsible of his death
          Also, it’s known that traction control on Benetton was legal, read William Toët blog [link removed]

              1. Facts are not facts just because somebody once wrote something. If you do not know what a fact is, then how can you possibly conceive a clear picture of realities?

  35. Ok Joe, nice one. I hope you do not have anything against Italians in general. I wonder how F1 would be like without the Italian ‘ingredient’.
    I have just one remark: when I read about the Sopranos the first man I think about is Bernie more than Flavio.

  36. I could not agree more Mr Saward, Briatore is not a man that I have ever particularly liked since he fetched up back in the Benetton days.

  37. Joe

    Agree that the sport is better off without Flavio’s involvement and his lifetime ban over the Singapore gate scandal is justified.

    Flavio like you correctly state did not come from a rmotorsport background (he has never been remotely interested in motorsport, know’s nothing about it even to this day) so I doubt that he could have come up with such a stratergy in the first place.

    I suspect that this stratergy was engineered by someone with an engineering degree and a wealth of motorsport experience. Someone who like Flavio should have gotten a lifetime ban but infact today work’s for a rival F1 team.

  38. I’ve no idea what Briatore has said, but I do know that he’s involved in the opening a new eatery in the middle east, which probably accounts for him chasing publicity. I hope he’s kept busy washing the dishes and stays well away from F1.

    I have always been concerned about Briatore’s close business ties to Bernie. I have just read that there was a court case late last year regarding money being owed by Bernie and Flavio to Antonio Caliendo, the former owner of QPR.

    Isn’t there a saying about knowing people by the friends they keep.

  39. Why do I feel dirty when thinking about the actions of Sauber, the whole Russian connection(Owners and Putin/BE), anyone with interests from the sand countries?
    It goes back to the 70’s and 80’s (Moneytron/ Monteverdi, Essex Oil.
    Flavio fills but one page in a large volume of unsavory characters, and their behavior.

  40. Toto Wolf is about as far from a “character” as you can get. Flavio was a disgusting sleazy schmutz, but every drama needs a villain, otherwise we’d have nothing to write about.

  41. F1 should open up the pitlane and the straight to F1 fans, not for celebrities and their entourage. WEC is great in that aspect. If you want to, you can meet the WEC racers and engineers for a reasonable price (sometimes included in the ticket). At F1 you simply don’t have a chance. I don’t give a toss about “stars” who visit a race. Me and my little boy want to meet racers. See their face from up close instead of a miniature helmet in a cockpit or the screens. Doesn’t matter if that’s someone from the back of the grid. Just a glimpse of Vettel or Verstappen would make my 6 year old happy. They are the heroes we should want to see. Not Kanye, Sly, Ronaldinho, Federer, Trump or Shakira. You can go see celebrities at their own concerts, games and political events. It took us an hour to get an autograph and a eye to eye with Mark Webber at the Nurnburgring this year. But we could. You probably have an idea how involved a kid gets with a race after that, even if he has to “endure” that race for six hours. If we want to see Messi we will go to a training of Barcelona.
    You know what sparked my interest in F1? Meeting Ayrton Senna and having a sit in his yellow Camel Lotus when my grandfather took me to some event when I was a little boy. Fans should have more chances like that.

      1. At Le Mans I could do it for 550 euro this year, with free acces for my son. Includes acces to all practice sessions this year at Le Mans, qualification, race. Permanent paddock access, pit access on friday, etc. At the Nurnburgring I paid 30 euro with continious paddock access during the race. But ok, let’s keep Le Mans as a reference.
        550 euro only gets me 1 GP2 grandstand gold weekend ticket at Spa without ever coming near a driver or someone who just inflates the tires. I do not even see an option about paddock access. Maybe I choose the most expensive race, but traveling to other races adds more to the expenses so it doesn’t make much of a difference in total costs.

        I remember that when Indycar came to Europe it was also very easy and affordable to get to the drivers and mechanics when I was at the race in Assen. Not as busy as a F1 race, but still fun to see guys like Andretti, Tracy and Bourdais.

  42. I fully agree with Sash on his comments about the effect on young people of getting close to the participants of a sport that they know little or nothing about. It really is key in my view. Just dragging teenagers into a Twitter or Facebook motoring world won’t work i’d say, and Bernie actually has a point there. The attention span of a modern teenager is strictly limited, but that of a 6 or 7 year old is a whole different concept.
    As to Flav, well he was never my cup of tea, but there’s no doubt that he did a lot of good stuff at Enstone, from Benetton to Renault. He wasn’t interested in the sport as such, but he was interested in the sport being big, and in it working for the Benettons and for Renault.
    I never liked his personality, but from reading what Alonso and Webber have said of him, then in business dealings with both, they have a different view of him. I don’t personally know him as they do, but have to assume that he’s not all bad, if they don’t think so.
    As to his racing actions, well i do remember him saying loads of times, that his team went well because he didn’t know anything or interfere but what he did was hire the right people and let them do what they thought was the right working practices unless or until they were not producing results…..which seems a fair assessment of how things went on at Enstone.
    It is also fair to say that certainly since the late 1970’s, there has undoubtedly been cheating in the sport, and that some drivers and teams have been tainted, but i think that can be said of all sports worldwide….and as to sleaze, hell, here in Great Britain we’re absolutely awash with it from Government downwards!! You don’t need to be Italian now to live in Bunga Bungaland!!
    One thing Flav was right about, is that the sport needs to be entertaining, and that no one outside the sport gives one whether the engines are 1000cc or 5000cc….what people want are sporting Gladiators, and seriously, if people like Alonso & JB just tour around for 21 rounds and might gain 4pts over a year, then that will make a lot reach for the remote….If people in this sport don’t understand that fact, then let me put it this way, if Muhammed Ali had been required to fight against other Heavyweights but in his case he had to wear Wellington boots and gloves with 10kilo lead ballast each, as well as a Scuba divers wetsuit, then there would not have been any crowds, sellouts or TV rights sold after his first professional fight….do you see what i’m getting at here? It is all fine to say, well all the teams have an equal chance, but no they don’t, and they won’t until there is a properly competitive and cheaper customer engine available…simples!

  43. Hi Joe,

    A a regular follower of your for countless years I have the greatest of respect for what you do and how you do it. Your blog and the efforts you put into everything is excellent.

    However, while not wanting to disagree with your sentiment regaridngin the personal traits of the below mentioned ‘personality’…I would say that regarding the former Renault team boss Flavio Briatore, his remarks a pretty spot on.

    He has described Formula One as “PlayStation for engineers”, and says the people who run the sport have forgotten the fans. On that point I would have to agree completely.

    The article then when on to say:

    The outspoken Italian, who guided both Benneton and Renault F1 teams to multiple world driver and constructor championship titles with Michael Schumacher and Fernando Alonso, says the sport is in need of a radical shake-up, with more emphasis needed on the drivers than the cars.
    “[It’s] PlayStation for engineers. People forget the fans, forget the show,” Briatore says, in an interview with CEO Middle East.

    This is also an important point.

    “Now it’s an exercise for engineers and it’s not sexy anymore. There’s no glamour. When you see the engineers on TV explaining an amazing clutch, nobody cares. People care about the driver, the star. Now to be quick, you need the bank to finance you. Now people put money in the car. Everything is critical. If you touch the white line, you are punished. If you don’t have the right engine, you are punished. It’s a punishing business,” he says.

    The 65-year-old, however, says he believes changes are coming to the sport.
    “I think sooner or later it will change, because like this it will go nowhere. People don’t find it interesting. It’s missing the gladiator factor. The drivers need to fight. You need to a rivalry between drivers, between Senna and Prost, between Mansell and Schumacher. This is what people want to see,” he says.

    In my opinion regardless of how sleazy or unreputable the guy is or has been, he has frankly articulated quite nicely the main reasons why F1 has become a borefest:

    It’s an engineering led exercise devoid of the heros being front and centre.
    The story is not being sold well or with the glitz and glamour of old.
    (I guess that’s because the promoter doesn’t promote.)
    Too many rules and penalties for minor infractions.
    Too PC and santitized.
    Not enough close competition.

    One thing he didn’t mention was that his buddy BE has made it all far too expensive to watch or attend.

    1. I agree with the sentiments, in the past motor racing was about engineering, about clever ways of gaining a jump on the competition, or just building a quickish car and putting an Ace in the driving seat. That has changed over time, and not for the better in my view.
      The engineering should allow bold ideas, even if they don’t work ( Gordon Murray, surface radiators for example ), but not micro fractional stuff like today, where computer programmes eek out 2/1000ths of a sec for some team….it doesn’t float any boats!
      Also, F1 should be about real talent, so that a bloke like Ronnie Peterson could get a crappy Privateer March and make it look good, or Gilles Villeneuve who discovered the limit on his McLaren M23 by going over it again and again! That was done on the track not in some borefest Simulator……hell, what sort of a fan wants what passes for racing these days when assessed against the past eras?
      So, i agree with Flav, i’ve heard it before and it is right, Playstation for engineers, too many stupid rules, too many absurd penalties, too pc, too sanitized and PR ruled, not enough competition…and too easy for the drivers as well as too damn expensive for the teams and for the spectators!

  44. @Nicks1963: Mr Briatore shouldn’t be allowed near F1, as per the FIA sentence, even advising on how to ‘liven up’ the show.

    The FIA life ban was overturned by a French court (the FIA being based in Paris) which ruled that he could not be banned for life from an occupation that was his living* so the FIA cut the ban to five years.

    *However, British courts and financial regulators have banned people for life from the financial world.

    @Verstappen: 1994 was also the year Jos got in a massive pitfire due to the fuel rig being modified to tank more than allowed…

    Actually, the filter was taken out to shave fractions off the pit-stop time by increasing the flow rate over the regulation limit. Mosley wanted to take action on it but for convoluted legal reasons could not.

    @CBR, Paulvinho, Andrew: Despite Briatore’s many faults, he must be credited with being a talent spotter, from snatching Schumacher from EJ to finding Alonso, Webber etc, and in my opinion as a manager by employing the right people and structuring the team to win, with no real racing background.

    I repeat, this is only to point out that he learned his way around F1 surprisingly quickly.

    1. Devious people are pretty quick at learning how to exploit people. You seem quite impressed with his abilities. You are of course aware that he is a convicted criminal who was involved in gambling cons? I mean, you do know about him, don’t you?

      1. Absolutely. And also some things about him that have not been published, and are unlikely to be. But I still think there are some things he did in F1 which were clever in the best sense of the word. It may be that these things should be disregarded because of his negatives, but I just happen not to agree.

    2. Regardless of whether the French courts overturned the life ban handed down by the FIA… that’s why I wrote “as per the FIA sentence”. And, in my view, his living was made from marketing, job he’d obviously been rather successful in doing for Benetton long before he was appointed to the company’s F1 team. His living, therefore, wasn’t dependent on working in F1.

      Just my opinion.

  45. @ I love chicken: David Thieme of Essex Oil unsavoury? I take it you never met him. He was a perfectly legitimate oil trader with an excellent reason to choose F1 and Le Mans for publicity.

      1. He was a legitimate oil trader, in fact acting on the advice of a German expert, for some years.

        As I said in a comment to you here in July 2014:

        His fall came because he insisted, against the advice of his expert, in doing “one last deal.” He borrowed $60m from a Swiss bank and lost it when the deal went sour – prices went against him – and disappeared.

        Around 2 am one night in Paris, when I was driving across town to the only place you could buy cigarettes then, I spotted him and called out to him. He ducked and dived until I convinced him who I was, then came back home with me and we made a night of it. It was the last time I saw him. I heard later he had gone to Nigeria to try and make some money, and disappeared there.

        Incidentally, the Essex livery was so stylish because he had been a graphic designer.

  46. I spotted at last years Monaco Grand Prix that Kendall Jenner was there as a guest of Lewis Hamilton. She briefly passed by in the background on TV. She has a following of 15.5 million on Twitter. Formula One could of tapped into a very large fan base of someone not really associated with the sport to gain new interest. Whatever people think of her is irrelevant but that sort of coverage is a missed opportunity.

          1. Kardashians and reality – Daddy’s famous 94 court case was the only Kardashian reality show I saw and that was a total sham. So if I’m not up with today’s reality then I must be “Unreal” ……… now that sounds Cool.

    1. It’s been happening since F1 began. What world are you living in where the things you mentioned haven’t existed in F1? The only difference now is that F1 needs to go to the world, where as before the world came to F1. There is so much competition for people’s entertainment needs now, that unless you are shouting from the roof tops people can’t hear what you selling. F1 needs to court a new generation of fans before a major disconnect happens that cannot be recovered.

  47. Nice to see you had a good response to this post Joe. I thought it was one of the your best blogs, right from the heart.

    In general I agree with what you saying.

    I also think the comments (this post being a good example) in most cases, really add to your blog and I Thank you for spending so much time in answering/commenting/putting right so many of them with your own brand of “observation” and humour.

  48. Interesting views on Ol’ Flav. Especially from some ‘inside.’

    Regarding Singapore, American viewers may well remember during the race that analyst Steve Matchett (who worked under Flav as a Benetton mechanic) immediately questioned the timing of the initial Alonso pit stop and when Piquet spun let out a giant laugh. I think Varsha even asked him if he thought it was intentional. As a network announcer with an engineering degree he knew better than to say yes.

    1. I don’t recall Steve having an engineering degree. His book was called “The Mechanic’s Tale” and I recall him as one of the Benetton mechanics who was involved in the celebrated 1994 Hockenheim fire. Nice fellow. Has done very well for himself in the US.

        1. Well, the interwebs say Matchett spent (at least portions of) 3 years at Loughborough University and then had a guild apprenticeship in mechanical engineering… now, I don’t pretend to know what that really means, but it sounds a bit engineerzy from over here…

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