Green notebook from the fog

When I was a kid, half a century ago, I recall vividly a broadcast on my grandmother’s Roberts R200 radio each morning in the kitchen of her bungalow in Frinton on Sea. Grandma was a rather severe Edwardian lady, who had lived through two wars. As a teenager she had won a gallantry medal for doing something very brave, involving Zeppelins, bombs and glass-roofed buildings. The citation, lost long ago, was framed and on the wall in her bedroom, but no one can remember exactly what it said – and because it is a complicated business tracking down such things we have not yet been able to discover more.

She loved to listen to the shipping forecast on Radio 4 and I well remember the strange lists being read out: “Low, Dogger, 987, deepening, expected Fisher, 972 at 07 hundred tomorrow”. The names seemed wildly exotic: Rockall, Fair Isle, Viking, Forties, Cromarty, Humber, German Bight, Biscay, Trafalgar, Lundy, Fastnet and so on, but I had no idea what it all meant.

It is said that this broadcast was the source of a famous quotation: “Fog in the Channel: Continent isolated” back in the 1930s. Perhaps it was. Later the Nazis used this in their propaganda to highlight what they saw as British arrogance as the inhabitants thought that the group of islands off the coast of Europe were of such importance that the Continent could be cut off from them, rather than vice versa. The expression did appear in print in 1957, but this was The Times having fun, using the apocryphal phrase to make a dull story more interesting.

I was reminded of all this when I woke up after a doze on the ferry on the way back to France on Monday evening after the Grand Prix. When I got on the ship – the MS Seven Sisters (named after the chalk cliffs on the British side of the channel, the sister ship of the MS Cote d’Albatre – literally the Alabaster Coast – which is the name for the chalk cliffs on the French side) it was a bright sunny day, but in the Channel there was quite thick surface fog. This meant that the Seven Sisters sailed more slowly than usual.

The thought “Continent isolated” made me chuckle because there is an element of truth in the expression in the psyche of some Brits. I guess it goes back to the days of empire, when Britannia really did rule the waves, but it persists these days in the minds of those who think themselves superior to “Johnny Foreigner” and don’t want to mix with outsiders. Now Britain has gone its own way with Brexit, much has changed and while Europe remains cautious of the pandemic, Boris Johnson and his followers who rule Britain today have embarked on a bizarre policy to open up the country from COVID restrictions and seem willing to accept the consequences, in the name of economic progress.

Thus, F1, hidden behind its ever-present masks and regular PCR testing, took part in a four-day festival involving more than 150,000 people (the 356,000 figure given out is four-day attendance figure). They all had a good time, without masks, social distancing and other such limitations. In theory everyone there had to show that they had been double vaccinated or had had a negative lateral flow test within 48 hours of attendance, but I have no idea how (or if) this was policed, because I drove in each day without ever being asked for anything and there did not seem to be any worse delays than usual (except on Friday night when the late Qualifying session resulted in hours of grid-lock), I assumed no-one was stopping to rummage around for paperwork.

Time will tell whether this was all a good idea, but it is worth noting that Ross Brawn’s post-Silverstone column specifically made the point that the event was done under British government permissions. “We had a full house, which was permitted by the UK government pilot event,” he wrote. Or, to paraphrase it slightly: “if it all goes wrong, it was their fault”.

Still, the British Grand Prix could not have happened without the race having the status as part of the Event Research Programme (ERP), a scheme designed to examine the risk of transmission of COVID from attendance at events. When one boiled it all down, therefore, there were 150,000 guinea pigs in the grandstands on Sunday, all happily communing in support of Lewis Hamilton. There were virtually no Dutch because of the complications involved with quarantine when returning to the Continent.

And yet, it was great to see a large number of people again and they were treated not only to drama and a Hamilton victory (number 99) but they also got to watch the new Sprint format in qualifying. This was all cheery stuff following England’s defeat in the UEFA Euro 2020 soccer competition the previous Sunday. The trophy went home to Rome and Britain agonised. Pirelli decided that it would make a small point about this and so flew the Italian flag outside its motorhome all weekend. Such is sport.

Soccer faded from the national consciousness as the week went on and Lewis showed signs that perhaps he might defeat Max Verstappen, after five consecutive Red Bull Racing victories. The new format made for a better weekend, of that there is little argument. It provided action on all three days, which meant better fan engagement. Things were a little less predictable than normal as teams had less time to practice and that seems to have had a significant impact on the weekend. The Red Bull is still the better car but the team chose to run more wing than might normally have been the case and so lost its advantage on the straights, while Mercedes chose a low-drag approach, which gave it more speed, but made the cars more skittery. These two elements combined to create an interesting battle on Saturday when Verstappen blasted away and dominated The Sprint and on Sunday when Lewis knew that he had just a lap or two to get ahead to avoid the same thing happening again. And, boom!

Max ended up in the wall with a 51G impact that proved that Bernie Ecclestone’s remarks about Lewis losing his hunger were a million miles wide of the mark. Lewis showed on Sunday that he is very much the fighter that he always has been. In fact, I would argue that he showed a little more than that. There was something inevitable about the clash, which we have been expecting for some time.

I think this one was a racing incident because the contact between the two cars was minimal, but with big consequences. Max came steaming across in front of Lewis and almost did it right. There wasn’t much Lewis could do to avoid an impact at that point, although I am also sure that he ddn’t want a collision. Amid all the noise after the crash, few seemed to pay much attention to the FIA Stewards’ decision – and they largely missed the point that Lewis was also given two penalty points. The cars, the stewards said, “entered Turn 9 with car 33 in the lead and car 44 slightly behind and on the inside. Car 44 was on a line that did not reach the apex of the corner, with room available to the inside. When car 33 turned into the corner, car 44 did not avoid contact and the left front of car 44 contacted the right rear of car 33. Car 44 is judged predominantly at fault”.

The last phrase is significant. The stewards clearly felt that that Lewis should take most of the blame, but the word “predominantly” indicates that there was also some fault involved with Verstappen. There was no penalty for the Dutchman as the implications of an accident – while not considered in the discussion of blame – are treated as punishment in such circumstances.

So, in effect, the stewards were saying that both drivers had some responsibility in the crash.

I’d call that a racing incident…

You can argue as much as you like about it but it’s irrelevant. Max paid the price for his aggressivity – which he has always had – and Lewis paid the price for not getting out of his way. The key question beyond all the yapping and griping is whether Max will do the same again if the circumstances occur, or whether he will have learned that Lewis is not going to be shoved out of the way.

A line was drawn in the sand, if you like…

If Max does not take that onboard, I fear we will see some more incidents this year because Hamilton is still a lion by nature and cuffing troublesome cubs only works so many times before a bite is required to get the message across.

The weekend also saw the launch of a full-scale model of the 2022 car, as envisaged by the F1 group. The one shown in the F1 Paddock was painted with a curious livery of red and silver, with the latter producing rainbow reflections, which may fit in with F1’s current equality messaging, but always reminds me of Barbie packaging (for some reason). The car itself is very long and hefty-looking: more of a valkyrie than a nymph, which is a shame because F1 cars should be light and sleek and not battle wagons…

Anyway, the paddock and the grid were filled with people profiling (albeit in masks), with Hollywood stars, tennis and football players, minor royals and politicians, if they were not self-isolating following the positive test of the Health Minister (ironic, huh?).

It was all rather galling for those who use the grid to work, but are currently not allowed to go there, for reasons that don’t make much sense when one is allowing high-risk celebrity types to stomp around the cars. Yes, perhaps having smaller numbers of people is a good idea but, as they proved in the Silverstone coverage, pictures of Tom Cruise and Harrison Ford standing in a pit are just as good as them standing on the grid.

The jibberjabber in the paddock was fairly limited as there is little left for 2022. Sergio Perez will get the Red Bull unless he says something rude about Dr Helmut Marko and the Red Bull drink itself – and Sergio is smart enough to know what not to say. The other things that might mess it up is if he asks for too much money, because if the Mexican cannot think of a number that will be fine for him and fine for Red Bull, there is no shortage of drivers ready to form a disorderly queue to take the second Red Bull seat.

Valtteri Bottas will probably – but not definitely – end up at Alfa Romeo, where the team wants a name driver to replace Kimi Raikkonen and the owner of the team – a man called Finn – appears to be fond of Finns. It remains to be seen who will get the second seat at Alfa Romeo, but one possibility is Ferrari test driver Callum Ilott (which would be wise to keep engine supplier Ferrari happy) while Russian F2 driver Robert Shwartzman (another Ferrari protege) could have a chance if he wins the F2 title. Alfa Romeo is an Italian firm and might not wish to been seen to be replacing the only Italian on the grid, but these days the car company is run by the French folks at Stellantis, who want more performance and don’t give a monkey’s about the nationality.

Williams will have a drive available once George Russell packs his bags and goes to Mercedes and this might suit Bottas nicely, except that it probably won’t pay as well as Alfa Romeo and would be a move back to where he started in F1, rather than joining up with a big manufacturer. Williams would prefer to have a driver with experience alongside Nicolas Latifi and so it will be looking at the likes of Dani Kvyat, Alex Albon and Nico Hulkenberg, although Mercedes might be keen to have Nyck de Vries in the team, as it needs to consider what to do when Lewis eventually retires.

The other chatter was all about the F1 calendar and you can expect to see the Brazilian GP being pushed back a week and going back-to-back with another race now that Australia has been called off again. The logic is simple enough. If Japan falls over (which could happen), there will be two races in Austin and a third in Mexico. So Brazil needs to move back to avoid a quadruple-header, as teams will not do four weekends in a row. However Brazil is on the UK red list and so it needs to have another race immediately afterwards so F1 folk can go to the other venue rather than going back to the UK and sitting in a government-mandated hotel for 14 days at considerable cost. I heard that Dubai might be an option… but it is still early yet. In mid-November the options are somewhat limited because of the weather… although southern Spain or Portugal might be possible.

Aside from that I hear that the success of the Netflix series means that US entertainment types are getting excited about F1 as likely to be a new cool thing in the US and there are all kinds of talks going on about F1 fiction drama series that could be made in the future by streaming services, which are all in search of great content.

When you consider what Downton Abbey did for stately homes, one can imagine that Formula 1 would benefit from a successful idea. But then, with the wrong script, it could also be less exciting than the shipping forecast…

156 thoughts on “Green notebook from the fog

  1. as far as i’m concerned Max reaped what he has sown for years … it was time someone stood up to his bullying the track … turned out to be Lewis, who had all sorts of sane reasons to get ahead sometime before the end of lap 2

    so Max … suck it up … be a grown up and move on;
    Red Bull … enough with the sore loser bollox

    and thank you Joe for the continued perspective on F1

    1. A bit of this, plus it makes sense for the WDC leader (especially with a big lead) to play the percentages and the challenger to be more aggressive and take more risks, no?

      1. If Max had gone 6″ further left, or even given up the corner, regardless of what Lewis had done, he’d have almost certainly won the race anyway and the narrative of the championship would have been very different.

    2. Wow, I think you are not seeing well. Only 2 times the apex was taken sooo wide. 1 time by Mazepin and the 2nd of your ‘hero’. That says enough. He obviously didn’t care about Max his life.
      And Seward are you S….d? If Max doesn’t change his driving???? Hamilton was the one who was wrong!
      You don’t say to a stab victim: it was your own fault be carefull because the next time you will be stabbed again.
      Hamilton was wrong that’s why he got a penalty.
      His behavior after the race was sickening.
      He lost a lot of respect and will always be remembered as a cry baby blaming every one.
      Wolff is a repulsive character.

    3. What a lot of Hamilton fans overhere , Hamilton has hit Max with his left front wheel to the right rear side of Max so it was definitely not Lewis’s corner !!
      Lewis and Mercedes are bad losers !!!
      Under pressure Hamilton is mentally a disaster and they have to talk him trough every race with help from his “friend” Bottas !!!

    4. Clive
      My sentiments exactly. I don’t think that Angry Spice covered himself in glory with his rather unprofessional tirade. I understand the RedBull Team will be tee’d off, but keep some perspective, we heard less from Toto when Lewis & Nico took each other out.

  2. It was sad to see Hamilton not note or care about Verstappen being in the hospital. Today its all ok, but on Sunday after the race – it was a bit galling and disappointing to see someone who has been so well spoken and caring about others less fortunate – not care at all about his main rival in the hospital. I think it was a racing accident as well, but being one of the drives involved I would have expected a very direct comment about Verstappen and not have to be told after the race that he’s in Hospital. Very disappointing in Hamilton and his crew – as well as Mercedes. Red Bull came away much better in my opinion.

      1. I’m American so perhaps we’re just stupid. But what I saw was an orgy of national pride and celebration. not one mention in the direct post race interview on international TV. Nothing either from MB on Verstappen.

        Perhaps my version of SKY F-1 was different?

          1. @Capsu78 Just to clarify – I heard that here in the USA. I don’t think they change it for us.

        1. He was given the brief answer:
          ”Max is out of the car”, without any further details.
          Two hours passed; he drove another 50 laps, but asking for an update on Max was less important than playing rockstar.
          He’s such an unsecure, opportunistic personality, always copying his mates and role models for the moment: musicians…designers…activists…

    1. Joe writes: “I think this one was a racing incident because the contact between the two cars was minimal”. Left front tire to Vertappen’s right rear tire through Copse! He could have killed Verstappen.

      1. If VER hadn’t cut in assuming that HAM would yield as he has before there would have been no accident.
        If VER had yielded as HAM has in the past both cars would have made the corner and he could have attacked again later.
        As Joe stated and I believe in most non-partisan F1 fans’ opinion this was merely HAM saying ‘Enough is enough! No more!’
        if you truly believe HAM put VER in mortal danger then perhaps F1 isn’t the sport for you – I’m not sure your heart will take pressure!!

      2. As far as I know, all team bosses voted to have stawards limit themselves to judging only the incident, never the outcome.

  3. Hi Joe

    Just to say that I was at Silverstone and the ticket gates were checking everyone’s Covid passes which are shown on the NHS App (or print out). So basically no double jab or negative covid test proof meant no entry.

    It might be different if you are there as part of the official press core etc.

    1. No codes were scanned. No Identification was requested. The same print out could’ve been used by 100 different people. Was a joke.

    2. Sorry, but one bloke checking a QR code by eye doesn’t amount to ‘checking’, no id needed either. For all the talk beforehand being part of a test event, it was nothing more than lip service

      1. Most of these “pilots” have been excuses for the government to let favoured events go ahead with only potemkin precautions. There’s no serious epidemiological studies happening around them.

  4. Couple of thoughts on Silverstone, purely personal observations.

    I took my 11 year old on Sunday for his first ever live F1 race and despite what everyone has said about the noise and complexity of the cars, based on a case study of one I think that F1 have got a lot right. He loved the noise (and was actually a bit put off by the ‘classic’ Lewis Hamilton McLaren in the demo) and was more engaged by the fact that the cars are hybrid. He loved the atmosphere and F1 has gained a lifetime fan (something I have failed to do so far through making him watch it on TV).

    That said, the three hour wait to get away from the circuit car park was nearly enough to put him off. I know we all just accept that this is how Silverstone is but surely it doesn’t have to be like that? It’s a massive turn off for lots of people to know that there’s always the risk of such major faff.

    Live F1 can create lifetime fans in an instant but it should also not make it so hard!

    1. I’ve been to Silverstone in the bad old days when the road was just a lane and with the bypass and that was for the empire trophy in 1992. The next time I went I made sure I had a good book and instead of rushing back to the car to sit in a traffic jam, I had a wonder around the circuit and after about an hour, meandered to the car and read until you could see the traffic was flowing.

      Sadly traffic and Silverstone are like Bolognese and pasta, they always go together.

      1. It’s always been a bit of a lottery. Back in the 1980s, my brother and I were parked in adjacent car parks. He got home an hour before I did. Nothing odd about that, but my home was in Hemel Hempstead (34 miles away) and his home was in Glasgow (300 miles away)!

  5. Not a Lewis fan, but that was a racing incident. Max ended up being in the wall due to his over-aggression. But I can see Max returning Lewis the favor.

  6. OK Blame the victim. Max was too aggressive and Hamilton was not. If Hamilton was not at fault why are so many Brits in so many Blogs trying to stress his hitting max’s rear right with his front left was unintentional. In other words it was Manslaughter and not Murder.

      1. I’ve been following F-1 and racing all my life – 50+ years. This was a racing accident…. but the blame in on Hamilton – as far as I know – the person passing has responsibility to complete a safe pass? unless the rules changed – that is why stewards gave a penalty.

        my issue is Hamiltons lack of concern post race… not what you expect from a 8X champion with 99 victories.

      2. His Joe, dare I bring up an identical [more or less] incident at Sochi one year: Kimi on Bottas. You came heavily down on Kimi. You certainly didn’t call it a race incident then.

    1. Had the race not been red-flagged, Lewis would have been in serious trouble, needing a new front wing and probably switching to a two-stop.

      It used to be the case that the Stewards decisions tended to be somewhat suspect. This was a first-lap racing incident, but from which, one competitor could not recover and the other benefitted heavily from the red flag. The 10-second penalty was about right. It also gave us a hell of a race and opened up the championships once again.

      Maybe Max will be a little wiser with his bullying tactics in future. My worry is that he will not and throw away his first championship. The smarter move would have been to give-up track position and walk away from Lewis with a powerful undercut when he switched tyres. You win races by being fast and smart and not by all-out aggression. His advantage was obvious from the sprint race.

      1. Which is exactly how Lewis would have/does drive. He’s played the percentages so far this year. I don’t think he expected Max to be so aggressive, Max had the faster car he should have been wiser and lost that battle and won the war. Perhaps Max wins the championship this year but I think hes’ gonna have to grow up quick to do it.

    2. Over on YouTube and elsewhere, there’s much discussion on non-UK based forums. The views there are a complete reversal of the majority of stuff I’ve read on UK based F1 comment exchanges.


      Sharpen those front wing endplates and deploy at earliest opportunity… COPY?

    3. The judges have ruled on the topic: Louis was found predominantly responsible by the five (correct!) judges and given a penalty communicated early (unlike VET in Canada), so he could serve it and still give the win a go.
      Why not accept it?
      The personal impression, left by his unnecessarily inflated celebration, was bitter…

  7. Excellent column, Joe. I remember a comment from the Poole-Chetbourg ferry. Arrive in Cherbourg and you will see signposts for Geneva. Back in Poole it says ” Hamworthy”.

    Brexit may have equalled that up, of course. I wouldn’t know. I live in Fogland, so like the Dutch am not going to spend 10 days quarantining without some greater need.

    Race weekend looked good. I watch on DAZN streaming and find it very good. Excellent value.

  8. The vaccine check, such that it was, consisted of a bloke reading your name and the expiry date of the QR code on the certificate. No QR codes were scanned. No identification docs were needed to back it up. So unless they memorised every certificate, the same one could’ve been used multiple times. A bit of a joke really.

    1. Do you not think the 🇬🇧 government also conducted a risk based approach where at the cost of a ticket, over £200 the last time I went, and figured 99% of people would be law abiding who had done the sensible thing? This is just an observation. The previous week at Wembley those that broke into the stadium were not those that bought tickets. They were just thugs who don’t have the emotional intelligence to understand their actions and risks to others.

      While I know more and more don’t care about their social responsibility, you need to make an effort to get to Silverstone, it’s not a couple of stops from your sink estate up the Metropolitan Line.

      I now live in 🇿🇦 and we have barely had a lockdown, we have vaccinated about 5% of the population and none with comorbilities first. The scientist are saying this has generated a form of herd immunity. I’m not a scientist, so I don’t know. But while our recovery rate is only 88%, this could be many things including socioeconomic circumstances. If (and I accept it’s a BIG IF), the 🇬🇧 government turns out to be better or no worse than what happens elsewhere, will people say Johnson got it right?

      1. Using money to correlate that people are law-abiding or having a social responsibility doesn’t really work for me. There’s a guy in 10 Downing Street who whilst underpaid is still on a decent wage, but doesn’t bother to wear his mask in his car for example, plus his other decision-making has clearly been in his own interest…

        The covid testing at Silverstone, Edgbaston, Wimbledon definitely requires trust by the crowd to work. Even if you did use QR codes, you could still not give a proper sample into the cartridge for example. One presumes that there was enough data from the previous events that showed the risk of this turning into a super spreading event would be true.

        Interestingly, my LFT test taken today is negative (I do realise the limitations of LFT and that I could still become positive in the days to come), but of the other two people I went with, one did get pinged by the app, and myself and the third were not.

        1. What would you suggest other than having paid the thick end of 200 quid and have to travel to get to the venue?

          Bringing Johnson into the response makes it clear you just a remoaner looking for any cheap pot shot when the point was about compliance around vaccination and Covid testing.

          1. Wow, where to begin.

            Your theory about ticket price and social responsibility falls apart as the ticket prices at Wembley were £250 to £800, and on the day were exchanging for £1500 or so. To be clear, I’m sure there was more abuse of the covid protocols at Wembley than Silverstone, but that you can’t just put it down to just be pre judgemental of it based on money.

            At no point did I bring Brexit into this. I was talking about Johnson’s lack of compliance when he was photographed coming back from Wembley in his car, with his protection officers wearing masks but him not. There are numerous other examples of his covid policies being compromised by his personal politics.

            So that Joe doesn’t have to spend his entire time moderating non-F1 comments, (and the F1 one’s are feisty enough today as it is!), I think we should agree to disagree.

            1. How many people with tickets stormed the turnstiles at Wembley? I don’t think it was anyone who paid £800. That was the point.

              Just like at Silverstone you have to make an effort to get there If you spend £200 a ticket and the effort to get to the venue, you going to turn up with what you need to get in.

              If you don’t know how the protocol will be operated, a majority will not spend the money and head to Northamptonshire without having followed the Covid rules. Also to be read in conjunction with the material fact about 70% of adults have been vaccinated.

              Comments like 100 people could have used the same printout is just ludicrous. It implies a conspiracy to avoid following the rules. These types would not have a fake certificate but bolt cutters to cut a hole in the fence.

              Like most you can bet a tiny minority broke the rules, but also if this becomes part of everyday life you can bet that in 12 months time the system will be significantly better.

              The clue is in what the event was called, a pilot event it was never going to be perfect, just like so much of this virus becomes known over time. A year ago it was thought the under 25’s were immune. They weren’t they were broadly asymptomatic, which drove the second wave.

              Contrast with what Joe said about his compliance checks. As the F1 compliance is well evolved, you can understand why no checks were made on the “F1 circus”. But what would be interesting to know is how Joe’s self regulated self isolation was enforced. What was there to stop him popping over to Northampton for a Nando’s? That would show how robust the elements that are better evolved are working

                1. Which is what I expected you to say.

                  Im assuming you double jabbed, you had a negative test before you arrived etc. I was curious to know what stopped you (other than clearly you own common sense and duty of care) from saying “these rules are nonsense, M&S do comfy pants and I fancy a Nando’s, I’m going to Northampton”. Was the B&B government approved and you were expected to leave and arrive in certain time windows, or really just self regulated

  9. A very bitter and stereotypical start to an otherwise reasonable report on the three (+2) lap race preceded by a one lap re-order of an actually very interesting qualifying.

  10. I remain confused by red bull calling it a professional foul, given Hamilton was 33pts adrift in the championship he had more to lose by risking a dnf…

      1. I’m glad to hear you say that.

        I’m *really* unimpressed by the bad sportsmanship (and implicit encouragement of abusive fan behaviour) of Red Bull’s ‘we’re consulting our lawyers’ schtick. Deeply obnoxious, sadly typical.

      2. On the other hand, when Lewis is outbreaked going into (or coming out of) a corner he has a history of keeping his front wheel at the same height as his opponents rear: twice with Albon last year. I remember once with Rosberg and a couple of times with Massa in the Mclaren/Ferrari days (Singapore springs to mind).
        I am certainly not implying he deliberately took out Max, but this sort of hard racing combined with F1’s mirrors, he puts them in a dangerous spot at least. It is, for me, what stewards call ‘avoidable’ and I think that’s why they put the blame predominantly on LH44

    1. I think everyone was still foccused on the football. Maybe if the same happens in Hungary, with the 1st 🇬🇧 and 🇮🇪 Lions test on Saturday at Ellis Park, people will say it was a collapsed maul

    2. Depends on how you look at it. If you make sure that if you crash at the very least your opponent crashes as well (and hitting somebody on the real wheel in a very fast corner is pretty much guaranteed to achieve that) it’s a net win because at least your opponent isn’t extending the lead. Best case you don’t suffer and gain a lot of points. Hamilton definitely got off very well.

      Personally I don’t see how you can blame Verstappen. He was definitely in front and on the racing line. Hamilton missed the apex completely and certainly didn’t seem to make any effort to avoid a collision.

      Could Verstappen have avoided contact? Maybe. But if your logic is that the guy leading should go out of the way of the guy trying to pass than from now on all drivers have to do is send on up on the inside, completely miss the corner or outbrake themselves and then go well that guy should have gone out of my way! If they make contact. I don’t think that is how racing is supposed to work.

      But Brits are unable to criticize Brits so I’m not surprised by Joe’s view on things.

      PS. For those that keep calling Verstappen’s driving over aggressive, if that is true than how come he is one of three or so drivers that has no penalty points on their license over the past 12 months?

      1. Read the stewards’s decision, read the rules and know that I am a European. I’ve lived in France for 30 years, you you can shove your bias suggestion in a place where the sun don’t shine.

  11. > When car 33 turned into the corner, car 44 did not avoid contact

    That’s very interesting to me.

    I’m no expert, and unlike people I respect who are, I was inclined to put most of the blame on Verstappen. It’s certainly true that Hamilton could have positioned himself closer in or pointing more towards the apex *earlier* in his move, but he’d got well alongside and it looked to me as if *at the point at which Verstappen turned in* Hamilton had no time or space to react because the gap between the cars at that point was so small.

    If I’m interpreting this right, the stewards are implying that at the point when Max started to turn in, Hamilton could and should have avoided the collision by moving closer to the apex. Is this a correct interpretation of the ruling? And is it true?

  12. A bit off topic Joe, but recently a stake of the McLaren group was sold to a combo Saudi & American group.

    Might that stake have belonged to TAG Group/Mansour Ojjeh?

    1. Pretty sure it was a dilution. The company itself sold the shares, increasing the number of shares, thus no other shareholder sold a chunk per se, but their shareholding all equally decreased.

      PS so many of my fellow countrymen (I’m an Aussie with a Dutch passport lol) throwing shade on Joe and Lewis. Totally unnecessary!

  13. Hi Joe

    I think Max was utterly bonkers to turn in when Hamilton was up his inside whilst going at 180mph through a corner. Whilst he probably had a slightly better claim to having right of way, the driver on the outside assumes the risk of such a massive crash that it’s hardly worth it. Hamilton, Leclerc and Norris all declined the risk over the weekend.

    I thought Max had improved his judgement, but Has Max just gotten used to people getting out of his way and is it inevitable now that every time he tries something bonkers, Lewis won’t yield and there will be more crashes

    1. If you look at the images Leclerc actually gave Hamilton less room on turn-in and Hamilton was much closer to the apex that time than with Verstappen. I think the claims of Hamilton deliberately knocking Verstappen out of the race are a rubbish (as it might very well have ended his race too) but I do think Hamilton took the calculated risk that this may be (and actually was) the outcome. And that risk in a 300 km/h fast flatout turn is a risk that (in my mind) he should not have taken simply because of the danger of actual serious physical harm involved.
      As to the celebrations, those really put me off. Hamilton was overdoing it by some margin given how he had come about the victory and the fact that Verstappen at that time was still in the hospital undergoing checks after his 51G-dinger.
      Also a lonely question during the red flag and then the only mention of Verstappen after the race to shove the blame firmly on Verstappen was absolutely cringe worthy and WDC unworthy. The least he could have done was to say that he hopes Verstappen is okay, but it was absolute crickets in that respect.
      I red now that Hamilton wants to call Verstappen to speak about respect on the track. My guess is that his call will go unanswered.

      1. Hi GJ

        Just to offer an alternative perspective. Lewis was told Max was out of the car, and after that, he would be required to stay focussed and in task. In his mind, he felt that Max was as to blame, and he got a penalty which he had served.

        At this point, his job is racing driver. Bono would be a poor race engineer if he mentions anything of Verstappen during the race.

        He was in his home Grand Prix, he had a tremendously difficult task to get himself in the lead of that Grand Prix which included being roared on by 140,000 people and he was clearly very emotional at the end of the race, as he was after qualifying on Friday. His celebrations were on par with how he would normally celebrate a Silverstone win, except the crows had to stay in the Grandstands.

        I think your judging him harshly perhaps.

        1. I haven’t read all the comments here, but here and elsewhere, the amount venomous hate towards Lewis is astounding. I get his personality is a bit marmite, but he good human being with his heart in the right place, I honestly don’t believe he has a bad bone is his body. He is also one of the cleanest racers there is. People need to look at themselves, before channeling all thier hate and anger at an individual who’s only crime seems to be, that he was involved in racing incident that wasn’t even 100% his fault.

  14. “The trophy went home to Rome and Britain agonised”

    This European and many other did not agonise. Quite the opposite.

    Glad Silverstone had a full crowd, can not wait to go again.

    Hope the weather was not too hot for you.

  15. F1 has much to learn from Hollywood.
    Look at the way Tom Cruise extracted every bit of publicity for himself and his upcoming projects over the whole of the Silverstone weekend. Saturday Aston Martin and Channel 4. Sunday Mercedes and Sky, perched beside Toto all day. Hugs for Lewis.
    I suspect he sought out Joe for a chat and a photo op.

  16. When I first used to attend F1races as a fan, the grid was set on a Saturday afternoon with a one hour session when all the cars were allowed on the track at the same time. There was quite a degree of skill in finding the right moment to set a time. It seems that after 30 odd years we are back to a very similar way of setting the grid for Sundays race. Such is progress, I suspect that younger fans will not realise that we have completed the circle and older ones will just nod and carry on.

    1. But back then there was no budget cap – in fact money was thrown around like confetti, wasn’t it?
      Qualifying engines that only had to do a handful of laps and if they went ‘bang’ no problem – we’ll just chuck another one in!!
      Every team had a T-Car ready to go if the worst happened.
      There were seemingly unlimited tyres of whatever compound a team wanted or at least whatever their supplier had available.
      With the current budgetary constraints no team can afford to be blasé about anything that might cost them money and the likelihood of having to spend some increases considerably as soon as cars ‘race’ each other rather than the ‘gentlemanly’ (hah!) behaviour we see in qualifying.
      I remain unconvinced about Sprint Quali in it’s current format – but who knows, maybe it’ll grow on me if teams can actually be given some incentive to truly ‘race’ rather than ‘settle’ as most appeared to do.

  17. Hi Joe, thanks for another great notebook – I always feel that a Grand Prix weekend is never complete until I have read it (along with GP+ of course!). Question about Oscar Piastri – is there any talk of Alpine trying to place him anywhere in F1 next year? Granted, the F2 season is only half way through (so I’m certainly not making an assumption that he will win it yet), however it would be a shame if someone who wins both F3 and F2 as a rookie were to miss out on a seat. Or perhaps they have plans for him in 2023?

  18. Thanks Joe for another entertaining and informative Green Notebook. Your thoughts here and in GP+ on the Hamilton/Verstappen incident seem much more measured and fair than others I’ve read. Max has forced Lewis to take avoiding action and concede the corner a few times this year thanks to his overly aggressive tactics, and it was inevitable at some stage they would come together. A more mature Max would have ceded the corner and taken the opportunity to pass later in the race. And even if he didn’t and came second, he’d still be leading the championship by a good margin. You don’t have to win every race to be world champion! The accident speed was quite alarming and it was good to see Max walk away, albeit a bit hesitantly, but the subsequent comments by Horner and Marko were outrageous and completely unnecessary. Disappointingly Red Bull has a habit of bleating loudly if things don’t go their way and Sunday was no exception.
    Was surprised to read that Bottas may end up at Alfa Romeo, I’d assumed he’d be the choice driver to help Williams move up the grid for a couple of seasons. Still if it opens up an opportunity for Hulkenberg, Kvyat, or Albon to return it would be a positive.

  19. I’m amazed that the folk driving the sport we follow and love are so wrapped up in their own little bubble that they don’t come up for air and look around them. Pontificating about the Japanese, Brazilian and Mexican races!? At a time when there’s a chance the Olympics could still be pulled even.

  20. Hamilton deliberately stuffed his car into Verstappen and caused the crash. The guy who writes this blog is so biased it’s comical.

    I wouldn’t wipe my ass with this web site if it was in printed form.

    Fuck you and your arrogance, Saward. I hope you get cancer.

          1. Joe always thanks for your detailed and free information that you put out to us fans. Much appreciated by all, keep up the good work, your posts are always appreciated, especially the travel trips

            I was always taught if you have nothing nice to say or constructive then just keep quite.

    1. @Jack Fallan. Go away, you silly little boy. Your pathetic childish attempts to bait won’t work here.

    2. Dear Jack,
      Whilst it is entirely your right to express your views about Sundays excellent F1 race, may I urge you to refrain from using anything that you’ve printed from the internet to wipe your ass with…. it’s really not very environmentally friendly and may also lead to blocked drains, not to mention the risk of paper cuts!
      As for wishing that someone gets cancer, all I can say is that Karma is officially a bitch, so good luck in your own life.
      Kind regards,

    3. LOL, so Hamilton picked one of the fastest corners in racing, lined by a gravel trap, to tie wheels with another car. That’s the stupidest statement I have read in a long time.

      1. The Californian Highway Patrol have three letters for that ploy. PIT. Precision Intercept Technique frequently seen in BTCC events and often goes unpenalised within that lesser sport. I have seen that happen before in F1 on more than one occasion.. It can be very effective. As it appeared to be on Sunday.

        There again Toto Wolff stated previously that “Lewis is only a Max DNF away”. Prophetic words .. Just maybe Toto has a superior Crystal Ball … Made in Germany… :-))

        Sharpen those front wing end plates. Deploy at earliest opportunity … COPY?


        What both amuses and annoys me, whenever Max previously has been involved in an incident ( an? make that many ) involving one or more cars, he is never to blame. Far too often has been treated favourably by both race stewards and UK F1 media types and always others blamed who clearly were not to blame. The first time Max is involved with the three-pointed-star’s star #1 driver, Max is at fault in various ways in the eyes of all the unbiased Brit F1 judges.

        Poor Bottas. Again struggling to put a brave post-race face on it. Has he no pride. Surely whatever they pay him for his “wingman” #2 role, it’s long overdue he tells MB F1 where to stick his contract. When is enough is enough? He needs a break from that demotivating poisonous environment. Is it so bad to drive for a lesser team? Look how Vettel suddenly has a spring in his step since leaving the poisonous environment which was and still is the team in Red.

        “You vill not race zee chosen one… COPY”

        Like many others, I’d like to see Russell drive for the three-pointed star team, As before in Hamilton’s car alongside Bottas. In place of Bottas just another “wingman” role scenario not allowed to race the chosen one.. Sad to see all things considered.

    4. You mother must be so proud of what she dragged up

      Joe has sanctioned me before today because I gave a blunt reply, but as I was brought up by human beings I would never want to say, “hope you get cancer”. Part of being evolved is being able to argue facts and not go off at a tangent (Look the word up in one of those books with all the words in it, phonetically it’s a Dick Shin Airy). I don’t agree with everything Joe writes, but I would never write that someone should get I’ll, I have looked at two people to Covid this week. You have no idea how insensitive your comment is.

      The other thing I don’t understand is someone bothered to read the Green Notebook to you and wrote your reply. Ask your probation officer to explain the internet to you. If it’s paper you want, perhaps drop down a couple of rows from the top shelf.

      It’s pond life you that will see comments turned off so we cannot express an informed opinion, because the world also has people like you who are ignorant and un-educated in it.

    5. And yet you chose to waste your obviously valuable time posting your drivel here?
      This isn’t the airport you know – you don’t have to announce your departure!!

    6. Jeez Jack !! Stand down, it’s a blog, albeit one of the absolute best, by the most experienced F1 writer in English. Maybe you butt-hurt Max fans need a wait for his driving decisions to mature, at least enough to match his prodigious talent.
      But no more slagging our Joe off.

  21. As expected, spot-on analysis from you Joe that cuts through all the nonsense and noise still being made after 3 days about a good old fashioned racing incident. A racing incident where a 7-time WDC has drawn a line in the sand and refused to simply move out of the way. The word ‘predominantly’ is definitely key. I also think that the ‘Lewis put Max in hospital’ angle was created by Horner in that bizarre and unsightly post-race exchange with TK. Max was likely and rightly advised to attend hospital by the medics after acquainting himself with the wall at Copse and experiencing a 51g impact to boot. The way it was (and still is) being ‘spun’ by those with an agenda is that Lewis has deliberately caused an accident and responsible for putting someone in hospital with a very serious injury. A very different message and more than a bit disingenuous.

  22. So your earlier post about Alfa Romeo not renewing their sponsorship with Sauber, and Sauber then switching to Renault power, was incorrect? Publishing incorrect stuff undermines your credibility, Joe.

      1. Joe

        If anyone asks you to pick lottery numbers, don’t publish them!!

        Honestly, do people not understand things change and deals fall apart due to unforeseen changes.

        Sadly people remember the few times you wrong, rather than the many times you right.

        3, 10, 14, 24, 35 & 48

      2. I was convinced that George moving to Merc was going to be announced at Silverstone.

        Did you hear anything reportable about why there is a delay? My guess is that they are waiting until Valtteri also has his future sorted.

        I suppose that ultimately, the timing is irrelevant if everyone is clear what will eventually be happening.

  23. Hi Joe great article as always, thank you so much, you are the only F1 journo worth reading. my question is hasn’t Giovinazzi done enough to hold hos seat? love to hear your thoughts

      1. Interesting you use Leclerc as a marker. In his single season at Sauber, he had a bit of a tough start but just got stronger and stronger as the year went on. He just oozed talent

        Giovernazzi is good but inconsistent.

        If he was going to be a top line driver you would expect more consistently by now. A bit like at Alpine. Alonso had a tough few races, but you get the impression he has the upper hand over Ocon which he will broadly hold.

  24. An even-handed summary of events, thank you Joe. As ever these days, it seems the majority of fans have gone into full on polarisation mode. Nobody can see shades of grey in anything these days… I wonder why that is.

  25. I thought Horner’s accusation and vitriol were bad in the heat of the moment, but despicable post race when they must have, by then, seen the Max onboard. Hospital visit was a mandatory precaution not an emergency. Horner’s extreme language was certain to fuel the idiot haters and along with Max’s (?) tweet it certainly did.
    No mention of Max 4 wheels off at turn 1; Throwing his car up the inside at Brooklands when completely behind the Merc and contact avoided only by Lewis making room. I imagine all this was sufficient for Lewis to say ‘no more’ and hold his ground.
    Hopefully others will feel the same way and help eliminate the ‘give way or crash’ mentality that Max has always displayed. He is a talented and extremely fast driver with no need for intimidation to enable him win. Very glad that he is OK and look forward more exciting close racing without avoidable contact.

    1. Exactly! Nobody in the media seem to be comparing the Brooklands and Copse events. In my view they were exactly the same, except HAM conceded at Brooklands, the right thing to do.

      As for the Red Bull management comments by Horner and later by Marko, they were completely out of order shameful posturing.

  26. O great! the keyboard warriors are out again.. wishing someone a very serious disease for running the best F1 Blog in the world and always being factual! You are no better to giving racial abuse when a person ‘of colour’ makes a mistake in top sport. You should be ashamed of yourself and calm your emotions down before you sit yourself behind a keyboard taking aim..

    Yes, as a F1 fan and a car33 fan I also sent my remote flying towards the far end corner, once the race was halfway through the first lap. The crash robbed us from, what was until then, a fantastic inter-team fight between the sport most able drivers. But come on, Max walked away, yes his championship-lead was cut short and a little shaken… there are worse things in the world.

    And Joe is exactly right when he states that ‘the ball is in Verstappen’s court’. Best thing Max can do, and probably will, is go on like he has been doing all year: stoically beating Mercedes and Hamilton. If it wasn’t for his Baku Blowout, his Silverstone crash and Lewis’ red flag luck in Imola, Max would be, at least, 50 points ahead. When things are reversed to last Sunday, and those occasions will most probably occur, Max can (and might) return the favor, putting Lewis in the gravel trap. But it will probably hurt Lewis far more if Max just take his crown without becoming vicious. At least he won’t be able to make excuses.

    If you wish, you can convince anyone here with factual arguments, we have different opinions here, you can even argue with grammatical errors on here, but please, keep your primal emotions to yourself and keep it civil. If you can’t: there are other websites to ventilate.

  27. Hi Joe, a few comments/observations from me :

    1) Did you read of Martin Brundle’s observation from Red Bull that Hamilton’s entry speed was such into Copse that he would not have made the curve without understeering (into Max). If they got the 51g right they are likely right here too?

    2) I would be curious to know how many F1 overtakes have come off on the inside of Copse over the years – particularly since the reconfigured Silverstone. I would hazard a guess that it is zero?

    3) I have huge respect for your blog and your professionalism but you do come across as having Hamilton in God-like status. This is my opinion from having read your blog for many years.

    4) Jack Fallan post is utterly out of order. I thought your filtered the vermin/keyboard warriors rather than giving them their “glory”.

    5) My personal view on the lap 1 crash is that Hamilton was desperate to get ahead and pulled a move that was extremely high risk given corner speed / risk of understeer. Max was very aggressive at turn in but he had the racing line. It wasn’t so much the lion you refer to but rather desperation. Hamilton chances of pulling the move off were remote as on the dirty side of the circuit and a very acute angle versus Max on the racing line. In a perfect world Hamilton would have incurred significant car damage too and been out of the GP. It would have made the accident feel more “fair” – my opinion.

  28. I am surprised that nobody has suggested that this was a mistake by max ; maybe he thought he had fully passed lewis and had the space to turn in without there being a collision ? otherwise turning in was just stupidity on his part …far to much to lose in hoping that lewis could and would pull back

    1. Well, it was a matter of a few centimeters, moving 75m every second, so it may very well be the case!

  29. This: “If Max does not take that onboard, I fear we will see some more incidents this year because Hamilton is still a lion by nature and cuffing troublesome cubs only works so many times before a bite is required to get the message across”

    The true lion is Max Verstappen and he will not bite back he will claw back…..

  30. I think for the first time in recent F1, Max had something to lose and not Lewis. In the past, with the better car Lewis’s experience told him to cede to Max.

    Now the shoe is on the other foot. A new experience for Max to learn he doesn’t need to win every battle, and when you have more to lose, your opposition know that.

    Placing yourself on the outside of a high speed corner with a driver inside and trying to scare Lewis into submission was the Max who is used to having to fight like Lewis is now.

    Didn’t like the RB spin on the accident, Horner’s “sticking the wheel up the inside” is disingenuous when Lewis was quite a way up the inside.

  31. Ok, couple of days past I am now in agreement the crash was an incident between two dogs chasing cat.

    Bottas, going to Alfa Romeo makes sense. What happens to A.G. ?

    Williams, well there is no loss of drivers available to pick from.

    Netflix, in America. The series as I see it is campy and staged. It plays to America’s taste for reality shows.

    Keep up the good work. Let us know when a real good biography of Senna comes out.

  32. Joe, great piece as ever. You know Verstappen, Horner and Marko. RBR management seem to be inflaming the situation, calling for race bans during the race, hiring a lawyer after the race, to look at the rules for more punishment. They cant seem to let it go and move on. It did not help the RBR to Massi audio being played and amplifying things during the race on world feed. Then we have Ver complaining that people cant celebrate if he is in Hospital on twitter. It seems to me that RBR management is fostering the type of attitude that VER will feel he can try a deliberate retaliation in Hungary. We know the consequences of that, the FIA set the standard with a life ban for the last driver to do it. Sure VER is smart enough to make it look slightly plausible. I feel RBR have pushed this too far and we are about to see worse to come. F1 becoming a reality show. That happens Horner and Marko will be complicit. That is an outsiders view of the personalities. Horner and Marko going to tone it down in private? Ross Brawn going to pull Ver aside and tell him to cool his jets?

  33. I find it hard to believe that ferrari would sentence Schumacher to a second season at Hass so I expect him to be at alfa romeo alongside one of their existing divers. As for the second mercexes seat if I were Toto I would be offering a sack of reddies and a better engine deal to Zac Brown for Lando’s contract.

  34. Dear Joe!
    I immensely enjoy your intelligent writing and well-informed and joyful style, since many moons. I also mostly agree with, and accept, or at least respect your opinions.

    This time, however, you sound indeed more biased towards Lewis than…ever before? It may be unintentional and it could be your tone but between the lines, one feels increased sympathy in your writing for the Brittish 99-time winner the past years…
    True or false, I believe that’s what people react on!

    1. Bias is a rude word and I don’t accept it. That is my opinion. If you don’t like it, don’t read but I don’t call you names because you have a different opinion to mine, so behave in the same way.

      1. Apologies, if so – I don’t feel that, not being English (nor Dutch). But I also used ”intelligent”, ”well-informed”, ”joyful” and ”immensely enjoy”, that reflects where I stand. So: please excuse my English.

        Should I rather say ”unbalancedly positive” (that I mean by ”biased”) – as the fact still stands ;)?!

  35. Are the people of Peugeot the dominate partners of Stellantis? May they try a different marque instead of Alfa Romero at some point on the saubers?

  36. So… Lewis was behind for most of the corner. Understeered like mad, and thus hit his opponent. But somehow the guy on the outside, who was clearly in front and had the line, gets the blame.

    And some grid penalties on top.

    The only thing wrong with the stewards decision is that it didn’t even turn out to be a real penalty.

    Not saying he deliberately put Max in the wall. But ‘predominately to blame’ is putting it mildly.

      1. Is it a penalty if it doesn’t harm you? If Russell would have gotten a 10s penalty, he would have finished 20th. A 10s penalty for a team that finishes 30+ seconds in front of the rest is useless. And that also applies to Red Bull.

        Max on the other hand comes out with a 750k bill and a grid penalty.

        1. If a football team is 4 nil up with 5 minutes to go, should a red card only just send the one player off? If the fowl is committed on the other team’s lead player, should the penalty be bigger than if it’s a lesser player?

          It’s the same in F1. The penalty is for the action that happened, not the consequence it will have, as otherwise, it would be impossible to calculate.

    1. I advocate that time penalties should be replaced with result demotion of X places since if you have the best car in the race a 10csec penalty is no punishment at all

  37. Max was in front. Max left Hamilton room. Hamilton missed the corner by so much that Leclerc got through. How is any of this Max’s fault?

    Any accident, crash, collision that has ever occurred during any kind of race can be called a “racing incident”.

    1. ‘Max left Hamilton room.’

      He did leave Hamilton room until he tried to cut inside leaving no room.
      Had Hamilton move from his line into Max, it would have been Hamilton’s fault. But he didn’t move.

  38. The GP+ intro summed up the Hamilton-Verstappen incident very well: one being assertive and the other being aggresive!. Horner and Marko should be ashamed of themselves on reflection, with their own aggressive language on air, most of which was factually incorrect. I suppose it acted as a pressure relief valve and it was an expensive outcome in terms of points and repairs/replacement. Thanks heavens for modern driver protection, but some might argue that is part of the problem. Interestingly passes like this are seen quite often in MotoGP, where the risk of contact has potentially much worse consequences – it is laughingly termed a “block pass”, ie I have my bike where you want to be, concede or get off!

  39. Late to the party, mostly lurking here last years, but massive fan of your blog, Joe

    As far as the incident between max and ham, I think there’s also the onboard footage of max to consider.

    It’s clear from his steering movements – even at that speed at that corner – he gives Lewis some extra space when he realised that lewis was alongside. So lewis missed his apex, AND max have him some extra room…

    To me it’s clear that Lewis is the only one to blame

    1. Watch frame by frame, not real time. He is clearly aiming for the apex right until the crash, no understeer.

      (Sorry Joe, last time I will repeat myself…)

  40. I can’t believe how rude people are on this forum. It’s fine to be passionate but to write some of the things here in the comments section to someone that is sharing their insight, their view point FOR FREE and not behind a paywall … well I don’t get the mindset of people. It’s just not acceptable fullstop. This internet age has meant we seem to not be able to tolerate different viewpoints. Whether it F1, covid, vaccinations, climate change, religion, use of fossil fuels or Ronaldo vs. Messi we need to be able to listen to one another and debate the subject.

    Joe, you need to be thankful you are not coloured, black, asian or part of the LBGQT community. Because it would be far worse.

    Keep up the great notebooks as they are a real highlight to many of us.

    1. “you need to be thankful you are not coloured, black, asian or part of the LBGQT community. Because it would be far worse”.

      It would be no different, abuse is abuse there is no hierarchy.

      There is a correlation, ignorant people cannot see the harm they do whether it’s saying someone gets cancer, calls into question ability to kick a round ball at a net or monkey symbols or ridiculing politicians they do not agree with by making unsubstantiated allegations. It’s the world we live in.

      As I’m more like to believe evolution than any other justification of how we got to stand on our back legs the reason why Hamiltons father has darker pigmentation is about where we historically from.

  41. A racing incident is when two drivers share the blame, so when it is 50/50. When it is 70/30 or 80/20 , or 90/10 (which is more likely in this case) only one driver gets the penalty as it should be.

    Besides if Verstappen would have taken a wider line he would have left the track just as Leclerc did, who did so to avoid Hamilton, who was doing the same thing as he did with Verstappen, trying to overtake in a corner when he was not significantly alongside enough , again. If Leclerc stayed on track he would have been hit by Lewis.

    1. As Muzza used to say if is F1 backwards, or if Aunty Jean had testicles she would be be Uncle Ken

      While I would apportion more blame to Hamilton as a pass from his track position would be difficult to complete without overshooting Copse and having to give back the place, Verstappens refusal to give way contributed. At Silverstone the race is won on lap 51, not lap 1.

    2. Verstappen left the track because he insisted on taking his line which was no longer there. Leclerc left the track because he could not get the grip from his tyres, nothing to do with Hamilton being there!

  42. Another excellent Green Notebook. Thanks Joe. I saw the Max/Lewis incident as another chapter in the education of Max. Professor Hamilton was teaching Max that he, the Professor, was no.longer going to automatically back down when Max is aggressive. It was similar, to my eyes, to the lesson about moving twice under braking handed down by Professor Ricardo in Baku.

  43. On the matter of penalties, the day after I lead the Panzers down Whitehall a driver deemed to have indulged in distasteful post-race flag-noncing will get a two-race ban. Four races if they live in Monaco.

  44. Leclerc’s drive was stunning. In the 1st stint when Lewis was behind Charles built up and maintained the gap forcing Lewis to back off and save tyres. Then in the 2nd stint he upped his pace to try and repel Lewis prompting Lewis’s “he’s going faster and faster man” radio comment. Lewis had to really push in order to overcome the Ferrari. Hamilton knew he had to work very hard to deny Leclerc. If only the reds had an extra few tenths on certain tyres they would join the Merc, RB dust up regularly.
    The other performance to marvel at was Alonso’s. Toto Wolff even gushed about his Sprint drive.
    I reckon Fernando’s stock is now restored as a very serious contender.

  45. Martin Brundle commentating said something like, “Max is is going to have to weave like crazy to keep Lewis behind……” and he did. Before Copse, LH faked left, MV defended left. Lewis then moved right and Max defended right. Thats weaving. MV last defensive weave to the right compromised his entry for Copse which meant he was unable to give LH more room….. so IMO. Max was more to blame than LH. But the Stewards always has more sympathy for the leader in these incidents…..
    Some MV overtaking over that last 2 years have been very robust to put it mildly……
    MInd you, I think Alex Albon would say the same about LH…..
    For me a 50:50 racing incident…….

  46. Hi Joe,

    I think your logical reasoning as far as interpreting the word “predominantly” here is flawed. Unless stated otherwise it only tells us Hamilton was mostly to blame, it doesn’t mention what other factors were taken into account. It could even mean the stewards felt Hamilton was in his right to try the overtake, but deemed the poorly performed execution a reason to penalise him. We can’t know for sure though, since the information available isn’t sufficient enough to draw any conclusions.

  47. Sadly I’ll agree with the stewards – Lewis mainly to blame, I think he knew what he was doing but expected Max to give him room. No experienced racing driver goes out to cause accidents (waves at DT and SF where the stewards thought they had).

    Good health Joe, you’re informative and entertaining (even on the rare occasions I don’t agree with you)

  48. The Stewards decision is final and let’s get excited about the fact that we are watching real hard racing at the front. I want to see a championship won on the track not by winging and complaining.
    Most of all the real winner is the FIA’s relentless drive for safety, after watching F1 for over 40 years I do not ever recall a driver walking away from a 51g crash.
    Lastly let’s enjoy what we all agree on, we love F1 and not allow hate mongers and small minded sub humans have air time.
    To disagree is fine, to spew vile at those we disagree with is mindless.

    1. exactly! I can’t wait for Hungary and than Spa, that never fails to fascinate.
      Last year’s Grosjean crash was, reported, a 67G impact. But, agreed, he didn’t really ‘walk away’ as he recovered several days in hospital. Was Kubica in hospital when he had his huge shunt in Canada? what was it? 2006 or something?
      But hey, 51 and 67 G’s, that are blow’s, man… unimageable

  49. Like most people I thought this was a racing incident with Lewis partially more at fault for running slightly wide, however after reviewing the incident frame by frame I have changed my mind.

    – Onboard looking at his hands, Lewis steering input into the corner does not vary at all right up to the point of impact. After impact there’s a one or two tenth wobble as the car drifts offline.

    -Most crucially looking at his wheels, you can clearly see frame by frame that they are in line with the apex right up to the point of impact. In other words, he did not understeer into Max Verstappen, his car only runs wide after impact. The helicopter shot of the incident does not show the Apex of the corner both pilots are aiming for. Without that visual reference, it looks like Lewis is going offline when he is not.

    You could argue that he was going to drift wide anyway as carrying too much speed from this shallow angle and that it was not related to him hitting Verstappen.

    1. I think LH felt he was going too fast into the corner and began to undesteer. If you watch LH qualifying lap inboard and are attentive to the revs, he goes into the corner full throttle. In the race, after being paralell to MV, the sound shows that he clearly lifts and this puts his front left in the trajectory of MV’s rear right.

  50. Hi Joe,

    Just reading the comments and the vitriol in this section is something else? I hope it does not stop you providing your insights. For me at least I understand that things can change from the moment you publish them, but you information that you give out is second to none, and often well before the bottom feeders of the web start to publish the same things!

    Keep up the excellent work!

  51. Dear Joe,
    I enjoyed your anecdote with the hotel owner in Baku, he likes the Brits because they don’t drink as much as the Russians and complain less than other nationalities, priceless.

  52. Slightly off topic, how is the press access going this year?
    I thought I saw you in the paddock in Hungary.

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